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    Yesdachi swallowed by Jaguar! Member yesdachi's Avatar
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    Default Re: Why does this keep happening?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by dgfred
    So you guys are saying that if your govs are fighting with the Army is doesn't
    effect your provinces too badly, and saves from many vices??? Although I've
    only had the game about 2 months, I always leave my govs in their original
    province , maybe this needs to change .
    I use to think that if the gov was not in his province that he didn’t apply his abilities but that doesn’t seem to be the case. The income doesn’t seem to change when I move him but I am not sure about the v&v’s. At least he is not getting the drunken , lazy , embezzler vices .
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    Default Re: Why does this keep happening?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    I use to think that if the gov was not in his province that he didn’t apply his abilities but that doesn’t seem to be the case. The income doesn’t seem to change when I move him but I am not sure about the v&v’s. At least he is not getting the drunken , lazy , embezzler vices .
    I'll give it a go this evening .
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    Default Re: Why does this keep happening?!?!

    The fact that you get mega-vices as you get more powerful is actually a quite realistic aspect of the game, as it models the decadence that most any such power would undoubtedly go through. As far as governors, I tend to leave them in the provinces they govern, just to keep track of them all and to make SURE there's at least one unit in to retreat to the castle in case of surprise attack.

    Unless of course he's a SWEET general, in which case I trot him around the map, kicking ass and aquiring all sorts of Loony and Inbred vices. WTF is up with the Inbred vices???? I mean, I can see if a certain man was born inbred, he would have that vice, but does it make ANY sense for him to grow MORE inbred as life goes along???? I mean, THINK about it!!

    Keeping generals in their provinces helps reduce the logistical chaos of the game for me, and provides a nice place to recall them from to the front if I happen to need their services commanding an army in an auxiliary maneuver...

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    IIRC, usually only 1 General per stack gets vices, so at the end game I start stacking Governors with the King or Prince and let them take the vices, plus it gives my enemies a good target for their assassins.

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    Seeing some of the whackier vices (Strange, Odd number of toes, Inbred etc) crop up on generals spontaneously is just proof, to me, that these are randomly assigned, as time passes. Just goes to show the developers had a sense of humour (or a specific desire to wind up rednecks)

    You can rationalize it to some extent by thinking of the original general dying of old age (but this is not reported to you like the deaths of ex-Royal generals are) and the job being passed on to the son.

    Contrary to some views expressed here, there is nothing in the human genetic makeup with which to confer 'generalship skills' on one's offspring. It's entirely a taught/learnt skill, IMO. How much skill can be passed on depends on how intelligent they are, how good their memory is but also whether they are even interested in military matters.

    As I see it, the only way a son can ever better his father is via tutorship under a different general who is better than he was, or by spending time in the library, studying the annals of world combat. Equally, the only thing stopping the son from being any worse than the father is that he wasn't born a dunce. 'Inbred' at least hints at idiocy, thus robbing them of 1 command star.

    I think the dowry sytem was still an element of marriages in medieval times. If a family could not afford to pay cash upfront, it would likely involve handing over land ownership rights, which would only have made them even poorer. So either avarice or sub-standard wealth (by nobility's standards) would be motivation enough for them to marry cousins so as to either eliminate the expectation of a dowry entirely or to ensure that any land-transfer was 'kept in the family', so to speak.

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