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    An increase in frequency of one type of Flu over another is evolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    An increase in frequency of one type of Flu over another is evolution.
    Wouldn't that be natural selection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    Natural Selection is evolution.
    A lot of scientists have their doubts.
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    One describes how things came to be, and the other seeks to explain results that seem too complex. The "how" can be tested in a scientific environment, whereas the philosophical "why" cannot be. That is why ID does not belong in a Science class.
    You couldnt be more wrong. Both seek to explain results that seem too complex. Thats the whole point. You are again making my point calling a theory fact. All ID is basicly saying is God made evolution. Its like saying ford cars came from the ford factory and Henry ford had nothing to do with it.
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    You can't test if there is or isn't a god or gods with science. So the why is best left to philosophy and religion classes. While the mechanics of theories and their testing left to science.

    If it can be tested within the scientific framework, then teach it in a science class.

    If it relies on something that is untestable then leave it to a religion class.

    If it is a fuzzy area then make a new class like comparative belief systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube
    Natural Selection is evolution.
    Natural selection is a method of gene frequency change. Another is mutation of the gene itself.

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    In the modern synthesis, "evolution" means a change in the frequency of an allele within a gene pool. This change may be caused by a number of different mechanisms: natural selection, genetic drift or changes in population structure (gene flow).
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    All ID is basicly saying is God made evolution.
    Gawain ; In that case teach it in religeous studies where it belongs .

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    Gawain ; In that case teach it in religeous studies where it belongs .
    Ok im all for classes on religous studies in school just like science. How about you? Great idea you have there.
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    Sure. Just as long as it covers Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judiasm, Christanity, Zorarastisim, Norse Mythology, Greek and Roman pantheons, it's all good.

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    Sure. Just as long as it covers Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judiasm, Christanity, Zorarastisim, Norse Mythology, Greek and Roman pantheons, it's all good.
    Why of course. I was taught all these things in school. Did you know that the founding fathers and our governent at one time made religous teaching is schools even universtities mandatory. That it was thought to be unconstitutional not to.
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