And lo, the EB and BI lay down together...

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

You probably don't have a descision on the matter yet, but will EB remake BI?

It looks like it'll need it. Do EB members have an interest in re-doing BI? Or will EB boycott BI unless certain features make it in?

I'm curious...

[Steppe Merc]

It's not so much of a boycott, really. If the features outweigh the obvious ease of us continuing with RTW, then we'll use it. If it doesn't, we won't. So it's all up to CA, really.

[Big_John]

do any members of the EB team have any designs on using BI to make a historically accurate mod of the BI timeframe?

[caesar44]

I know only this - the best mods for MTW were those based on VI v. 2.01 - the latest version .
so , I suppose the EB team will follow that example

[Little Legioner]

Actually, I was thinking the same. Lets wait to see for 1.3 changes on game. I know that there will be a 1.3 patch and they said we'll release it simultaneously with BI.

[Zawath]

The expansion pack will make the modding much easier and the AI much better so it would be foolish not to use it.

[khelvan]

The expansion pack will make the modding much easier and the AI much better so it would be foolish not to use it.

And you know this how, exactly?

[Little Legioner]

We don't know the possibilities at the moment. They claimed like that on FAQ section on COM. but before any decide EB team should have to see and examine it how shall it be. I wish that might be easier to modding BI in comparison with the vanilla RTW.

[jerby]

to stay on-topic, berserker can mean 2 things:

-a: make RTW's EB for BI (time period of rtw)
-b: remake BI (the timeframe)

for EB to boycot it would be ridiculus. It's not a company, and it's everybody's personal descision to boycot or not.
personallly, no matter how bad it is. i'd never boycot it. as soon as any mod (rtr or EB) makes a mod, or continues modding, on BI, I'll get it. very OT..srry

[alman7272]

I'd only get BI for the mods. I'd really hope if there are more faction slots (if the ones from BI are actually new ones and not textswaps) that EB would use it and expand upon their mod with more factions.

[caesar44]

We want more factions !!!

[Moros]

We want more factions !!!

more factions you must be kidding me!

I don't know if I'll be buying IB depens on the mods and how many new possibilities(sp???) they'll have. And ofcourse how good the 1.3 patch we'll be if it improves the AI I will perhaps even play Vanilla again (it would be like a brand new game with AI) and perhaps it will also make modding easier...

-a boycot? oow Activision will sell so few games if 50 people won't buy it

[Dux Corvanus]

-a boycot? oow Activision will sell so few games if 50 people won't buy it

It will be SEGA this time. Activision won't distribute the expansion.

You know, SEGA. Yes, the Sonic guys...

[Salazar]

Well, BI, just because i love the Time Period and i'm very confident that somebody will make a realistic Mod for BI as well.

[Moros]

It will be SEGA this time. Activision won't distribute the expansion.

You know, SEGA. Yes, the Sonic guys...

yeah, well I forgot it.
perhaps the denarii will be perlaced by those sonic rings

[Dux Corvanus]

Those rings will be spreaded all over the battlefield. If you pick enough, then you'll unlock the cool units, like the Rhin flamethrower pimps, the Whip Mikonos drag-queens, and the Volga scrotum rippers.

[Mongoose]

just remember that if a unit routs, it will drop the rings


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[Batahr]

Some changes in BI (posted by JeromeGrasdyke in this post):

* easily moddable factions via a descr file
* shadow factions, emergent factions, and horde factions are all properties which can be attached to factions in the faction setup
* a new, moddable religious system
* rebalanced charge and spear effects
* improved after-save AI behaviour
* more bug fixes than I care to think about
* much improved battle AI
* removed the limits on uses of console commands
* extended mod system (in fact, BI is a giant mod on Rome, although there will be new exe's as well of course...)

Looks like BI will be a bit more mod-friendly and will have improvements on some hardcodes issues (AI, cavalry vs. spears problems) that will make it worthwhile for most (if not all) mods.

[Silver Rusher]

The impression might not be given by the first unit they revealed (lord have mercy on CA), but BI looks like it might actually be quite accurate, at least more so than RTW. The PC Gamer preview of it had a map inside showing the starting locations. Some of those faction shields and starting regions look quite accurate.

[Steppe Merc]

Sorry, but have you looked at the units? Preasts and Gallowglasses are a joke.

[Divinus Arma]

I just thought I would say that this thread title is hilarious.

[Spitful]

From the makers of RTW i bring you the next title in the Total War(R) series
Sonic the Hedgehog - Total War

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Oh cut it out. CA isn't making a historical game - you should have already abandoned hope on that. It's up to them to make it mod-friendly so that EB can do its job. And it sounds like they are making it friendlier.

[Shaun]

well in the BI FAQ it says that they will be making it easier to mod!
so there is no exuse for no RTR or EB for BI.

[Steppe Merc]

Just because CA says something doesn't mean it's true. They said RTW would be easy to mod. They lied. Likely, they lied again.

[Dux Corvanus]

Just because CA says something doesn't mean it's true. They said RTW would be easy to mod. They lied. Likely, they lied again.

Yeah, that's my impression. They say it will be easier to mod, but if you read in the FAQ the specific answers to the mod community requests, you'll see that... we can be happy if they don't make it even harder.

The only thing they've improved for us is that they'll allow now the program to read a different set of files without overwriting the vanilla ones, and that only because of their own needs -for BI.

[Scorpion]

Well, let´s just wait and see. If the battle AI has been improved in any meaningful way, and the loadgame bug has been fixed, then there´d be no choice but to convert, because, I´m sure we all agree that those are the biggest issues in the game.

CA has promised us as much - let´s see if they can keep their word. If not...

[jerby]

well equal moddabilty+morefuntions=reasonably worth it

[King of Atlantis]

Well, BI, just because i love the Time Period and i'm very confident that somebody will make a realistic Mod for BI as well.

a mod is already in the planning....

[jerby]

i think what he meant was eb's version of that period.
btu wich mod is that? hwo did they decide it so fast?