shields

[Spongly]

Yeah, you can't hold a hoplite shield like that - they have a grip at one side a big metal hoop to stick your arms through. I think for RTW period, the hoplite shield when combined with the sarissa simply had leather straps for your arm, and one that slung over your head and shoulder, so you couldn't move the shield much, but could hold your pike with two hands.

[jerby]

pikemen shields very generally strapped tight. but in RTW, when you go h2h (no phalanx) they wield it strait forward like a buckler. very weird.

btw, spongly. do you mean hoplites or pikemen?