Quote Originally Posted by barocca
TRUE,
but,
saxon heavy cav can catch goth horse archers, even if the HA's are on skirmish mode

goth HA's cannot catch saxon heavies

the hunnic cav are the fastest of the lotB.
Perhaps Goth HA are considered heavy (as are the Hunnic elite despite being HA) and saxon 'heavy' is calc'd as medium speed.

From a realistic perspective one would expect that a charging heavy cav unit might occasionally catch HA that didnt react quickly enough. After all it takes a fair bit of time to turn a horse 180 degrees and ride away. OTOH, from a historical perspective, it should be a rare event.

Quote Originally Posted by barocca
put any HA on cantabrian circle and they are dog food if you dont watch em,
they seem to forget to skirmish in time to avoid charging cav, especially if you charge the cav past them.

B.
Why would anyone use cantabrian circle? IIRC it never worked correctly and any units using it were always 'easy pickings'.