Units

[Stephen Hummell]

Which ones are featured in the demo so i can play with them?

[barocca]

With Icons

AlanMercenaryCavalry
Archers
BedouinCamelWarriors
Billmen
ByzantineInfantry
CatapultCrew
ChivalricFootKnights
ChivalricKnights
Crossbows
DesertArchers
FeudalFootKnights
FeudalKnights
FeudalManAtArms
FeudalSergeants
GenoeseSailors
GhulamCavalry
Kataphraktoi
KhwarazmianCavalry
LateRoyalGhulamKnights
LateRoyalKnights
longbows
MamlukCavalry
MuslimPeasants
MuwahidFoot
Peasants
SaracenInfantry
Spearmen
TrebuchetCrew
TurcomanHorse

Without Icons

Housecarle
HighlandClansman
OrderFootSoldiers
Pikemen
Halbardiers
ItalianLightInfantry
UrbanMilitia
gothicknights - cav
NapthaThrowers - Thunder bombers, and just as suicidal!
Lancers - (cav)
PronoiaiAllagion - (cav)
Gendarmes - (knights)
MangonelCrew
BerberCamel - archer camel!
GothicKnights

most probably more to come...

[This message has been edited by barocca (edited 07-20-2002).]

[Stephen Hummell]

Housecarles wouldn't work at hastings.
Oh well the mangonel does some killer damage

[barocca]

What do you mean by the Housecarle wouldn't work?

TroopType::Housecarle

[Stephen Hummell]

I typed in Housecarles.

[barocca]

and you have no idea how many typo's i've made - and had to reboot, or lost documents i was working on...

[Toda Nebuchadnezzar]

Housecarles better work at Hastings since they were the main part of the saxon army.

Typo's eh? not good news. I think its time for some Mavis Beacon typing lessons.

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Jaguara-Spoken like a TRUE SPAMMER Toda!

No Fear Legend.

[barocca]

Hirosito was also going to post with more units he had found that work in the demo,

Anyone else got any more to add to this list?

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[Hirosito]

sorry i did didn't i

here goes:

armenian heavy cav
byzantine cavalry and infantry
mamluk handgun
murabitin infantry (not bad)
chivalric sargeants
gothic sargeants
milita sargeants

others have been mentioned

has anyone found whether certain units can only be played by certain factions. io'm not sure but sometimes the game would crash for no good reason and i thought it might be that

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Hirosito Mori

Hirosito the Baptist of the Babbiest Babe Thread.

Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.

[gustavogg]

other units mod who work in the demo
Saracen Cavalry
OttomanSipahi
Arbalester
PaviseCrossbows
PaviseArbalester
Turcopole
Saharan Cavalry
Muwahid Foot

[Stephen Hummell]

So far my fav knights would be the gothic knights, I love the maces.

[Emp. Conralius]

Housecarles? Somone should make a mod with them! Ottoman Siphahi? Don't get me started...

[barocca]

Guys,
just ran tests on those unit lists
and i can confirm the following units work

ArmenianHeavyCavalry
Arbalester
ByzantineCavalry
ByzantineInfantry
ChivalricSergeants
GothicSergeants
MamlukCavalry
MamlukHandgun
MilitiaSergeants
MurabitinInfantry
MuwahidFoot
OttomanSipahi
PaviseCrossbows
PaviseArbalester
SaharanCavalry
Turcopole

These Units failed,

SaracenCavalry - failed
please check on your own systems and if they do work please give me the correct spelling


[This message has been edited by barocca (edited 07-22-2002).]

[Hirosito]

many units seem to look exactly alike is this because of the multitude or because this is a demo and not all units have the proper unit graphics yet.

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Hirosito Mori

Hirosito the Baptist of the Babbiest Babe Thread.

Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.

[Stephen Hummell]

Ijast played as Saladin with a slave army, made entirely of Ghulam Cav. and Mamluk Cav.

When I will py as the Egyptians in the game, I will have a slave Empire.

[Stephen Hummell]

MamlukHandgun sucks. 6o guns went off and it only killed 2 dudes at point blank range.

[Kraxis]

I seriously can't get he Berber Camels to work, I use BerberCamel as their name.

Are you sure you got them to work?

[Stephen Hummell]

Quote Originally posted by Kraxis:
I seriously can't get he Berber Camels to work, I use BerberCamel as their name.

Are you sure you got them to work?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I got them to work.

[Kraxis]

Odd...

[Stephen Hummell]

Kraxis, Try the Battle for Iberia at Barrocas site or the doragon site for mods. Berber Camels are featured there.

[This message has been edited by Stephen Hummell (edited 07-25-2002).]

[NARF]

is it possible to make a new unit, different sprites and all. Cause a jedi would be mighty nice

[Kraxis]

Strangely it worked...

I was one of the first to try as I'm a friend of Shadeswolf, back then I could not get it to work, now it works. And I won after my right got rolled up.

Odd that I could not add them into my own mod.

[barocca]

Quote Originally posted by NARF:
is it possible to make a new unit, different sprites and all. Cause a jedi would be mighty nice[/QUOTE]


NARF,
maybe
BUT before you begin...
...where is it now...
and i was going to point you at a thread that has dropped from the board - damn,
ah well,
go to Clan Doragon's Portal and then to the Shogun section,
The Library in the Shogun section has an article on doing this in STW,

as for MTW, far more complex,

until I have a release copy in my hot little hands I won't be able to tell you HOW to succeed,
OR even if it is possible, as the Demo reuses sprites, simply assigning them different weapons and shields for different units.

Meaning changing one unit could actually change SEVERAL,

in STW each unit had its own sprites, and thus effecting a change, as i did with the Naginata unit, was (?)simple(?) (rotflmao),
Long, Arduos, Tiring, Monotonous,
Frustrating(at times) and on the whole VERY REWARDING.

wether we will be able to change a unit in MTW remains to be seen.

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[barocca]

I have been looking for information on some units,
to design a 'correct' unit icon,

Trebizond Archers
apparently the Byzantine Empire was called Trebizond?
so these are simply Byzantine Archers


PronoiaiAllagion
now this is a hard one
it translates roughly as paranoid exchange!
So what we have are
Paranoid Schizophrenic Cavalry?

now HOW do i design an icon for them?


Byzantine Cavalry


what should ALL these guys look like?
weapon, shield, armour and horse armour for the cav
etc.

[This message has been edited by barocca (edited 07-26-2002).]

[kamizaki_nurizeko]

by all that im taking it that medeival has lots of units, i gott aplay the demo

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[Kraxis]

Barocca...

Trebizond was a city on the coast of the Black sea, I would say two thirds the way from Constantinople to Armenia.
But I will agree that these guys are very Byzantine. Just give them an icon where they are holding a bow...

Byzantine Cavalry, no horse armour.
Give them an icon where we see some sort of heavy horse archer. The bow is there, the horse is there and the man is armoured somewhat.

The Allagion, yeah... well, let them have the same icon as the Byzantine Cavalry without the bows.
Have you tried the mod?

[This message has been edited by Kraxis (edited 07-26-2002).]