Spies

[Dutch_guy]

I have a question concerning spies.:

What use do they have , why would anyone bother using them?

I just started using them , but why would I want to discover any vices of an enemy commander when I can just built a watchtower in a adjecent province an just read his stats and virtues / vice...


And do spies cause unrest like in RTW ?

Also if you have any good tales to tell , concerning spies , feel free to share them.

[Knight Templar]

Spies are very important.
They increase hapiness in your provinces are decrease it in provinces of other players. When put in enemy provinces, they can inform you about enemy's plans (for example: The Spanish are mobilising a major attack. The Almohads appear to be the target.). They can organise trial to your generals (a good way to eliminate them if they are unloyal), find vices to enemy generals (my spies once found enemy general to be assassinator (hapiness -40), which caused a rebellion in his province). If you are besieging a castle, they can try to open a gate (useful ehen you're besieging a Citadel with a small garrison)

[DensterNY]

Spies are great I just started using them... I know they have a lot of potential to do damage but I wished they didn't take so much development to get them. You'd figure most nations would develop spies as a first priority even before clergy... I guess its the whole historical accuracy versus gameplay debate... their presence too early in the game would make it too much of a pain to develop any kind of empire.

[yesdachi]

find vices to enemy generals (my spies once found enemy general to be assassinator (hapiness -40), which caused a rebellion in his province).

Important to note that you can see the hidden vices that generals have but the “people” cannot. When a spy uncovers the generals vice the “people” now know about it too. I currently have a Spanish King that has a secret adultery vice that I am hoping doesn’t get uncovered.

[dgfred]

Spies are very important.
They increase hapiness in your provinces are decrease it in provinces of other players. When put in enemy provinces, they can inform you about enemy's plans (for example: The Spanish are mobilising a major attack. The Almohads appear to be the target.). They can organise trial to your generals (a good way to eliminate them if they are unloyal), find vices to enemy generals (my spies once found enemy general to be assassinator (hapiness -40), which caused a rebellion in his province). If you are besieging a castle, they can try to open a gate (useful ehen you're besieging a Citadel with a small garrison)

Terrific stuff to know! Thanks! I keep them in all my
provinces and some in the AIs, but they seem to wacked very easily . I'll have to try the gate opening deal .

[Knight Templar]

Terrific stuff to know! Thanks! I keep them in all my
provinces and some in the AIs, but they seem to wacked very easily . I'll have to try the gate opening deal .

Thanks
If you don't have VI, then the spies are great (mine destoyed the enemy faction by causing massive rebellions, I moved 15 spies from one region to another). However, after I installed VI, I found 9/10 of my spies will be killed by enemy bodyguards if I put them in enemy province with Border Fort

[ichi]

That was nice response Knight Templar ; in addition it seems that spies help root out enemy spies and assassins as they enter your provinces. I keep a spy in every province once I get built up.

ichi

ps nice choice for an avatar

[Knight Templar]

Thanks