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    Jillian & Allison's Daddy Senior Member Don Corleone's Avatar
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    Default Did we really have no idea 9/11 was coming? Did the commision hide the truth?

    The US military, in the course of a covert operation, determined that Mohammed Atta was attempting to engage in terrorist activities against domestic American targets in the summer of 2000. This operation, code named Able Danger, attempted to forward it's findings to the FBI. This attempt was blocked by the Clinton administration, because it violated their policy of 'keeping a wall between intelligence agencies". When this information about Able Danger was forwarded to the 9/11 commission, they refused to enter it into record or review it. Why? Because the architect of the 'wall policy', Jamie Gorelick, serving on the commission in a clear conflict of interest, blocked it.

    Scorecard: Clinton's people knew in 2000 that Atta was on the loose and up to no good. To be politically correct, they forced their intelligence agencies to keep quiet about it. When this was going to be brought to the attention of the 9/11 commission, commissioner and former Clinton administration official Jamie Gorelick covered it up.

    Oh yeah, but no matter what happened, we all know 9/11 was all Bush's fault...

    Oh, by the way, anyone care to guess now what was on those documents Sandy Berger stuffed down his pants and snuck out of the National Archives?

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    I think they knew somtheing was going to happen evnetually but did not know when or where.
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    The point is they knew that Atta would most likely be involved, but Jamie Gorelick, in an effort to be PC, refused to allow the FBI to receive the covert group's warnings. She then worked to have it covered up when it came before the 9/11 Commission. Three of the commissioners are on record as stating that they had never heard of Able Danger until after their report had been written.
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    Funny how info on this keeps coming out in dribs-and-drabs. First news reports said SpecOpsCmd didn't pass on the intel because Atta had a valid visa.
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    How would you like to be an operative at spin central right now and stuck with the job of reaching into Sandy's pants to see what incriminating documents he was able to ferret away so you could set your story....
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    Default Re: Did we really have no idea 9/11 was coming? Did the commision hide the truth?

    There's an allegation by an unidentified former official that he tried to present the info to the Commission, but was rebuffed. The Commission is looking into whether or not teh info was ever offered.

    Seems like a huge leap at this time to go from an anonymous allegation to the conclusion that Clinton knew, and that Sandy Berger was attempting to conceal that fact.

    The data mining operation Able Danger may have had info that Atta was involved in a cell, but there's no solid proof that they did anything with that info, or that it would have prevented 9/11.

    Most interesting to me is why those involved did nothing once they were allegedly rebuffed by civilian law enforcement, and again when they say they tried to provide the Commission with the info (why didn't they make a big noise then, why now?).

    Let's let this play out for a week or two and see what facts develop before jumping to conclusions.

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    Can't really blame Clinton for something another person did. In all fairness to the man he did approve every snatch operation that was proposed by the CIA, Justice and DoD during his presidency according to Richard Clark.

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    Default Re: Did we really have no idea 9/11 was coming? Did the commision hide the truth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    Scorecard: Clinton's people knew in 2000 that Atta was on the loose and up to no good. To be politically correct, they forced their intelligence agencies to keep quiet about it.
    That's not the impression I get from the links you provided. Remarks on the contents of Mr Berger's underwear seem premature.
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    I nominate you my friend to reach down and see just what's in there....
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