A Request

**Demon of Light** · 08-16-2005, 10:15

Know what bothers me about this entire exchange here? It is a micrcocosm of everything that is wrong at the Org. Self-righteous people are treating other self-righteous people without any degree of civility. Rather than disagreement with an idea, the people behind the ideas are being attacked. This isn't acceptable. That all of you people have for so long been given such free reign in your treatment of others in no way validates your disrespectful conduct towards others.

I care nothing for claims of hypocracy. To the extent to which both sides resemble squawling toddlers pointing fingers at one another over who started it, I do not care. I am unmoved by all talk of African-American pots and kettles (though I might have a few suggestions about where to place these). The only thing that matters here is that every poster here has a choice in how they treat their peers. THat choice is still there regardless of how much abuse you have been subjected to, how correct you feel yourself to be, or how much of an idiot anyone else is. For the sake of being able to call oneself the better person, I should think that we all could stand to exercise some restraint in posting.

P.S: One might ask by what right do I post any sort of directive. Recently I saw a call go out for creating a more civil atmosphere at the Org. That call included a mandate to confront disrespectful behavior politely but firmly. This places upon my shoulders a shared responsibilty for the overall tone of debate in this forum and on this site. What before was implied can now be considered to be explicit. Any moderator who points out rules violations should be treated with respect and not as an interloper regardless of jurisdiction. If someone exceeds their mandate, believe me when I say that you'll know about it.

P.S.S: If I were to state a personal opinion on the subject matter, I would say that Sasaki appears to just be frustrated. Couldn't the same be applied to us at some time or another? Cut him some slack. (Credit to Gawain for mostly making this same point earlier. While I'm crediting Gawain, I'll give some out for mostly being constructive in this thread.)

**ichi** · 08-17-2005, 01:48

Since I couldn't have said it any better, I'll just say that I stand with DoL . It is possible to challenge ideas without attacking the proponents of those ideas personally.

ichi