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    This is directed mainly at non americans.....you guys seem VERY interested in american politics. Do you guys whish you could vote in our elections?


    Me and (probably) every american here would be ready to start another revolution if non-americans voted in our elections.


    So do you euros(and canadians etc) think you should have a say in our elections.
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    No - only citizens of the nation should be allowed to vote. And yes recent legal immigrants can vote since I don't consider them foreigners but citizens.
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    No, I don't think we should.

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    No, we should not as it is an American President and up to the American people to decide who they want to lead them. We reserve the right to complain afterwords though.
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    Default Re : should foriegners be allowed to vote????

    Quote Originally Posted by ceasar010
    Do you guys whish you could vote in our elections?
    Yes.
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    Me and (probably) every american here would be ready to start another revolution if non-americans voted in our elections.
    And rightly so.

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    So do you euros(and canadians etc) think you should have a say in our elections.
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    I dont think even all Americans should be allowed to vote as their too uniformed.
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    no only citiznens. ceaser do you really want to lose the conservative majority do you??????
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    Only conserva- I mean, American citizens should be allowed to vote in an American election. Makes sense. Wouldn't want any libera- I mean, Americans voting in the British elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strike for the south
    no only citiznens. ceaser do you really want to lose the conservative majority do you??????

    I am COMPLETELY against having non americans vote in our elections but it seems i have seen a few non americans hint that they should be allowed to vote. I wanted to see if that is true or not and if so how many think this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Rusher
    Only conserva- I mean, American citizens should be allowed to vote in an American election. Makes sense. Wouldn't want any libera- I mean, Americans voting in the British elections.
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    Strange suggestion. How would we call you all idiots for electing a monkey when we had played a role in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceasar010
    This is directed mainly at non americans.....you guys seem VERY interested in american politics.
    The majority of the posting in here is by Americans and a great number of the threads are started by Americans. America is the last remaining superpower and is involved in two international conflicts at the moment, so quite a few non-Americans have a vested interest in American political discussions (note that I didn't say vote.) In another vein, the general discussions about science, religion, and economic policy are issues shared with other democratic nations.

    A thread title with "foreigners" in it sounds xenophobic, or as if this was a U.S. only message board, doesn't it? I can tell from what you are asking in the actual post that wasn't your intent, but it does make it sound like a U.S. forum with international visitors. The .org in my experience is international, but English speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Harvest
    The majority of the posting in here is by Americans and a great number of the threads are started by Americans. America is the last remaining superpower and is involved in two international conflicts at the moment, so quite a few non-Americans have a vested interest in American political discussions (note that I didn't say vote.) In another vein, the general discussions about science, religion, and economic policy are issues shared with other democratic nations.

    A thread title with "foreigners" in it sounds xenophobic, or as if this was a U.S. only message board, doesn't it? I can tell from what you are asking in the actual post that wasn't your intent, but it does make it sound like a U.S. forum with international visitors. The .org in my experience is international, but English speaking.

    LOL - now this is funny. What is even funnier - is he placed me on ignore for doing this exact same thing to him. Talk about a hypocritical arguement.

    Someone needs a lot of help in maintain a consistent arguement.

    Last edited by Redleg; 08-12-2005 at 20:55.
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    I put foreigners because I am an american... the rest of you are indeed foreigners; just like am a foreigner to you. If you are offended by this sorry....but I do not see why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceasar010
    I put foreigners because I am an american... the rest of you are indeed foreigners; just like am a foreigner to you. If you are offended by this sorry....but I do not see why.
    As a dirty, grubby little foreigner from the north, neither do I!
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    There was actually a bit of vague grumbling about this in the backroom during the election. Some hinted that because the US is so active around the world the presidential decision affected everyone.

    Of course no one would come out directly and say that people should be allowed to vote in countries where they do not hold citizenship. Theres no amount of spin that could make that position tenable.

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    Doesn't the title of this thread answer itself?

    should foriegners(sic) be allowed to vote????

    The answer is obviously - Yes, in their own country. Admittedly I'm not a regular poster in the Backroom, but I can't say I've ever seen anyone say that non-US citizens should be allowed to vote in a US election.

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    Vote Nader!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceasar010
    This is directed mainly at non americans.....you guys seem VERY interested in american politics. Do you guys whish you could vote in our elections?


    Me and (probably) every american here would be ready to start another revolution if non-americans voted in our elections.


    So do you euros(and canadians etc) think you should have a say in our elections.
    Absolutely not.
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    Only if we can back date the fines for Americans not turning up to the voting booths in Australia...
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    All RESIDENTS in a country should be allowed to participate in the local elections. National elections would require a citizenship.
    I participate in local elections in Indonesia and national elections in Sweden and EU.

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    Only citizens of a country should be allowed to vote in that country.
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    No, in fact, no non-American born citizens should be able to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    No, in fact, no non-American born citizens should be able to vote.
    That's nuts. If a person is a naturalized citizen, they should have the right to vote. Denying representation for citizens (excluding felons, insane, and young) is a bad idea. The history of other restrictions is an ugly one, let's not regress.

    I don't seen any reason to allow non-citizens to vote--although it was done at the time of the Revolution. If they want representation by the govt, they should seek citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    No, in fact, no non-American born citizens should be able to vote.
    I disagree... With the large Hispanic population with many if not most having traditional Catholic views on marraige and children, it would not be good to not allow them to vote. Face it, we are on the gravey train here in the States when it comes to adding more and more to the conservative way and over all numbers. As long as the left here in the US continue to promote abortions, failed social policies, and homosexual lifestyles they will weed themselves out. Man, maybe Evolution isn't such a bad thing.
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    being an Immigrant from Europe, I dont think we should be allowed to vote because....its not our country, as simple as that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittBull260
    being an Immigrant from Europe, I dont think we should be allowed to vote because....its not our country, as simple as that lol
    So you mean only native indians should vote ?? It would save a lot of money for sure.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    So you mean only native indians should vote ?? It would save a lot of money for sure.....
    dont act stupid, u know wat i mean, only the ppl who were born in america should vote

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittBull260
    dont act stupid, u know wat i mean, only the ppl who were born in america should vote
    I disagree - anyone who is a citizen should vote - be it an immigrant or born.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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