American Revolution?

[Incongruous]

This is sprouting from the most important Revolutions thread.
So who thinks that the American Revolution was really a civil war, and who thinks it really was a fight for freedom and justice?

[Strike For The South]

I don't think it was a civil war in the sense that Britian and the colonies weren't on the same tier. As for being a war for freedom and independence I think so the colonies were getting taxed with no representation (granted they were much higher elsewere in the empire) and I think they wanted to forge there own identity...then agian i could be bias

[caesar44]

The "Americans" were the sons and grandsons of the British colonists , so it was a civil war between British
The "Americans" considered themselves (at least those who did) as Americans fighting British for independents , so it was a war for independents

In any case , it was not a revolution because the british government did not fell .

[Marshal Murat]

Wasn't it a revolution against the British rule of the colonies?
I think that it was a seperate breed because of the immigrants that came over, and the many former colonies of other nations (France, Netherlands, Spain)

I'd say that it was a fight for representation without taxation, religious freedom, and freedom of the press. Because there was such force applied against the colonies it was their thought that they should rise against the monarchy because such oppression was unjust, and not through the consent of the people of the thirteen colonies who the legislation affected.

It was also War for Independence, because Americans considered themselves Americans, like the Scottish consider themselves Scottish, despite being derived from the same Celt breed as much of the British/English population, and adjoined to the nation.

Same with the Irish, and Australians.

[caesar44]

the Scottish consider themselves Scottish, despite being derived from the same Celt breed as much of the British/English population, and adjoined to the ...

Marshal , the Scots "are" Celts , the English "are" Anglo-Saxons , there is a big difference

[The Stranger]

but the aussies are also anglosaxon, how to explain that. but on the other hand they never revolted did they.

[Duke Malcolm]

The Scots were and are both celtic and anglo-saxon. But that's not the point. The Scottish Wars of Independence were for independence against a foreign invader trying to take advantage of a bad situation.

The American Revolution was a Rebellion against the mother country, not a civil war. Britain did not invade to cause the revolution, the settlers just did not appreciate having to pay taxes for defence, land, and such things, without having representatives.

[Flavius Clemens]

Marshal , the Scots "are" Celts , the English "are" Anglo-Saxons , there is a big difference

England may be by name derive from Anglo-Saxon, but by make up we're a mix of Celtic Britons, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings, Normans and everyone else who's arrived here over the centuries... We are a mongrel race.

And if I as an Englishman can get away with quoting the Scottish band The Proclaimers (my taste in music crosses the border!),
"In Scotland's story, I read that they came
The Gael and the Pict, the Angle and Dane
But so did the Irishman, Jew and Ukraine
They're all Scotland's story and they're all worth the same."