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    The Black Senior Member Papewaio's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1
    but the aussies are also anglosaxon, how to explain that. but on the other hand they never revolted did they.
    Aussies that immigrated had a very high percentage of Welsh, Scots and Irish. They were never solely anglosaxons. Plus a lot of non-British immigrants from other Commonwealth and non-Commonwealth nations.

    After all I live in New South Wales.

    Most colonies gain independance when they no longer rely on the founding country for protection. Once a rich upper class has enough wealth, feels secure enough and wants to expand its own political clout it seems logical that independance gained by one method or another will happen. The reasons given for independance are to give the cause legitmacy. Very few countries was gaining independance through war actually stick to the reasons they went for it in the first place... USA for instance is not a tax haven is it?
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    Yet we have the freedom of religion,
    freedom of the press,
    soldiers may not be quartered in households,
    you as a American citizen are entitled to a jury of your peers,
    no excessive bail of fines,
    no searches or seizures unless you have obtained search warrant.

    Alll of these, made into LAW, were some of the founding opinions of the Founding Fathers, and have guided us for nearly THREE HUNDRED YEARS.

    Talk about a political clout!
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    The press was relatively free in Britian at that time, though you weren't allowed to publish things such as 'Down witht the King'. You could however make implicit criticisms. Religion was also relatively free, if you didn't make a huge spectacle of it you would be unharmed. The Catholic Emanciapation Bill some years later allowed Catholics to stand for parliament and hold other postings. Soldiers were not generally quartered in houses, that's what we had Hyde Park for . As for the rest, ever heard of Habeas Corpus? It was brought in with the Bill of Rights almost a hundred years before, in 1688.
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    Ah but Americans must be able to say Down with the President.
    To control Boston, and other parts of the colony, they must quarter troops in homes.

    Also, most religious people who lived in London, or England were forced to America, because they were preaching their own religions. (Quakers)
    That was one of the reasons for the split correct? For the government was Anglican.

    And the search warrant was needed after British could get a "Writ of Assistance" to search any warehouse or store, or home for smuggled or illegal items.
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    It was a rebellion. Traitorous yankee dogs!

    Do the right thing-come back to the crown and your sins will be forgiven..

    Plus- allying with the French !! Tisk tisk...
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    Stuck up British Pigs! (good fun,nothing serious) hehehehe
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    Have you just been dumped?

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    From the People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn:

    "Around 1776, certain important people in the English colonies made a discovery that would prove enormously useful for the next two hundred years. They found that by creating a nation, a symbol, a legal unity called the United States, they could take over land, profits, and political power from favorites of the British Empire. In the process, they could hold back a number of potential rebellions and create a concensus of popular support for the rule of a new, priviledged leadership.

    When we look at the American Revolution this way, it was a work of genius, and the Founding Fathers deserve the awed tribute they have received over the centuries. They created the most effective system of national control devised in modern times, and showed future generations of leaders the advantages of combining paternalism with command."

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