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    Default Re: Re : Has any one observed these ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
    Read this for a refute of the 'Protocols of Zion'

    'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a forgery made in Russia for the Okhrana (secret police), which blames the Jews for the country's ills. It was first privately printed in 1897 and was made public in 1905. It is copied from a nineteenth century novel by Hermann Goedsche (Biarritz, 1868) and claims that a secret Jewish cabal is plotting to take over the world.'
    Yeah, a document of that kind is quite easy to create and attribute to some author, who didn't write it. In fact, it's a method that have been used by many leaders over time. Stalin's USSR also used the method, gone even further - when they started the Finnish winter war, they killed around 10 Russian soldiers with artillery and blamed the Finnish of attacking them, as an excuse for going into Finland.

    What is scary though, is that several novels about conspiracies and other terrible utopias have nearly come true - the wildest imagination of authors trying to create a artistic horror novel later ending up as the normal way a short time afterwards. George Orwell's books are good examples, with all the surveillance implemented today. This protocol, which is also an artistic creation, has also partly come true (but with individual interest organizations. and the previous state of all factors in society leading them to it, rather than a conspiracy being behind it). Like I explained above, most of these bad things that go on in society follow from the previous state of matters in a civilisation, and with a natural, normal struggle with natural instincts given such an environment, many terrible developments come naturally the way society looks today, which is the real problem.

    Like I also said - whether conspiracies exist or not, and assuming they exist who controls them, matter little - the important thing is that the basic system is made in a way so that neither a secret conspiracy, nor an open lobbying organization, can get enough power to do something that can hurt humanity. The single act of creating a too strong single power position is always a bad thing, because the power position will always sooner or later end up in the hands of someone who'll misuse the power, something that might not be visible during a period when a nice guy is holding the position.
    Last edited by Rodion Romanovich; 08-15-2005 at 15:35.
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