Get off my property

[KafirChobee]

Aenlic, I get your message and agree in part, if not entirely with your statements.

That the true ChickenHawks don't recognize themselves is understandable. That they want to intermix our troops (actually putting their lives on the line) with the label "ChickenHawks" is understandable. They want to confuse the real issue. That is, it is easier to spout patriotic phraseology than actually performing the duty of being a soldier in an already unpopular war.

ChickenHawk: Someone that supports a war, but finds ways (or has in his past) to avoid actually serving in it (or in one). Examples; Dick Cheney, Rumsfield, Bush43 -ANG doesn't count, defending Texas against the NVA is a non-combatant scenario - G.W. Bush III (Jeb's boy), etc.

Actions speak louder than words. If one is a true believer, then prove it.

[Aenlic]

Aenlic, I get your message and agree in part, if not entirely with your statements.

That the true ChickenHawks don't recognize themselves is understandable. That they want to intermix our troops (actually putting their lives on the line) with the label "ChickenHawks" is understandable. They want to confuse the real issue. That is, it is easier to spout patriotic phraseology than actually performing the duty of being a soldier in an already unpopular war.

ChickenHawk: Someone that supports a war, but finds ways (or has in his past) to avoid actually serving in it (or in one). Examples; Dick Cheney, Rumsfield, Bush43 -ANG doesn't count, defending Texas against the NVA is a non-combatant scenario - G.W. Bush III (Jeb's boy), etc.

Actions speak louder than words. If one is a true believer, then prove it.

Agreed in total, except for Rumsfeld. Even though I despise the man, he did serve a full term in the Navy. The others though, spot on.

I don't have a problem with people who choose not to serve. This is a free country, after all. My problem is with people who wholeheartedly support the war - vocally; but don't support it enough to put their own lives at risk. Those people, I despise. People like the Bush twins. They are of the right age. Why aren't they off helping Daddy make the world safe for Daddy's policies?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

So then FDR is a chicken Hawk of the first magnitude.

[Red Harvest]

So then FDR is a chicken Hawk of the first magnitude.

Really gotta wonder if you understand the definition... Do you really know anything about FDR or are you just running on what you would like to believe about the man? Born in 1882, his only shot at war would have been the 1898 Spanish American War...and that would have made him too young. (Don't know if he personally supported that or not.) By WWI he was acting as the administrative head of the Navy and had been instrumental in setting up the Naval Reserve and preparing the Navy for war. In 1921 he was stricken with Polio.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Do you really know anything about FDR

No I never heard of him.

Born in 1882, his only shot at war would have been the 1898 Spanish American War...and that would have made him too young. (Don't know if he personally supported that or not.) By WWI he was acting as the administrative head of the Navy and had been instrumental in setting up the Naval Reserve and preparing the Navy for war.

So he was young enough to quit and go join the army during WW1 then. Hes a chicken hawk. He was instrumental in getting the US involved in two world wars.

[Red Harvest]

So he was young enough to quit and go join the army during WW1 then. Hes a chicken hawk. He was instrumental in getting the US involved in two world wars.

Since he was working for the Navy, he was in the war effort rather directly. No hypocrisy on his end.

I guess with your logic it would have been better to let the Nazi's and Japanese win WWII, while we sat it out.

[bmolsson]

I guess with your logic it would have been better to let the Nazi's and Japanese win WWII, while we sat it out.

The Nazi would never have won the war, even if US would have sat it out.