CommunismVsCapitilism

[Kagemusha]

While that is not communism, it does provide a drag on the economy because of inherent government efficiency, and so the people don't get as much out of there money as they would through private institutions.

A non-welfare state will have a better economy and so its people will be better off.

Crazed Rabbit

Explain to me why?Our government byus much of its services from private organisations.And at this years study Finland is the less corrupted country in the world.Some governments are more capable than others.I also understand that this kind of model doesnt suit very large countries because the organizations tend to get too heavy.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Gov't beuracracies (sp?) are naturally less efficient than private businesses, even if they contract out a lot of private companies, because the gov't has a monopoly. No one else can compete with them, so they have no incentive to improve their services. And in the USA at least, the workers are lazy, overpaid people*.

And besides, people should be able to choose what they want to pay for, and not have it chosen for them.

*I'm talking about gov't departments, like the dep't of motor vehicles, and not police or firefighters.

Crazed Rabbit

[Kagemusha]

I understand your wiew on thisCrazed Rabbit.And i agree that byrocrats are annoying.But you can get good people to the public sector when they are payed enough.You have to remember that Healthcare and Education arent very profitable businesses.How would you feell about about privatizing Army,Firedepartment or Police?I think that the reason why we dont agree on this.Is that i see Healthcare and Education as basic service from goverment that should be equally provided to every citizen like police,firedepartment or Army.And you my friend dont.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

When the government provides Healthcare and education services, you generally don't have a whole lot of choices in what you want. Generally.

[Kagemusha]

When the government provides Healthcare and education services, you generally don't have a whole lot of choices in what you want. Generally.

Explain this to me Alexander?

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

It takes money to pay for, say, public education. The government takes this money through my (yes "my", I'm working now!) taxes. Then I can send my kids to public education for "free" or send them to a private school at an additional charge. If the government didn't provide public education, I would get taxed less (hopefully) and I'd send my kids to a private school I approved of. Of course, public education isn't a great argument, since I don't think we could afford to cut it, not from grades K-12.

[Kagemusha]

We dont have privat schools in here.The point behind public education is that it doesnt matter if parents are rich or poor but every children has equall chance to have a great education if they are smart enough.This also gives better standards for grades.Since all education is compeareble.So if i pay high taxes i allow some children from poor family to be something great.I have nothing against that.