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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    What if the available public education out-and-out sucks? In parts of the US, this is true, and private schools are better in some areas. What do you do if the public schools are just screwing over poor kids? You could try to fix them, but in the mean time, private schools can be a better alternative.
    I dont know your education system that well.But i think if public and private schools co-exist.Public schools start to suck,because the private schools get more money from the richer families and can therefore provide better education.That leads to an situation where rich people put their kids to the best of the private schools,the average citizens try to get their children the best education that they can afford.And the poor have no other option then to put their children to public schools which have turned into dumbsters because the better teachers are working where they get the best salary.The same things goes with the healthcare with fev moderations.
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    Also generally speaking, public school teachers get better pay, and public schools usually don't run out of money. Sometimes they do, but not really because of competition with private schools - to my knowledge.

    Private schools are not degrading public schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Also generally speaking, public school teachers get better pay, and public schools usually don't run out of money. Sometimes they do, but not really because of competition with private schools - to my knowledge.

    Private schools are not degrading public schools.
    Thats very intresting.I thought that public jobs pay less in almost every country in the world.So how does the private schools get the best teachers?
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    Remember that my statements are generalizations. They don't hold for everywhere, and I could always be wrong. But, at least where I live, the main private schools are Catholic schools. And they can't afford to pay teachers as much as public school teachers. Sometimes that means private school teachers are quite bad. Sometimes it means they are dedicated and skilled individuals who really help students.

    Also where I live, the public schools are not terrible (though not gold-plated, either) so it isn't a great example. Until high school, I was raised in private school only. (And public-schoolers are a bunch of heathen ruffians! Kidding.) So I'm a little biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    Remember that my statements are generalizations. They don't hold for everywhere, and I could always be wrong. But, at least where I live, the main private schools are Catholic schools. And they can't afford to pay teachers as much as public school teachers. Sometimes that means private school teachers are quite bad. Sometimes it means they are dedicated and skilled individuals who really help students.

    Also where I live, the public schools are not terrible (though not gold-plated, either) so it isn't a great example. Until high school, I was raised in private school only. (And public-schoolers are a bunch of heathen ruffians! Kidding.) So I'm a little biased.
    Now i understand.Church funded schools.I also must admit that i was thinking pretty extreme ends of schools(elite vs.Ghetto).Its so easy to make generalitions about country that i dont know well enough.Also i think that different churches has bigger impact on your society and i seem to forget that always.We dont have Church funded schools at all.
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    Heck, I'm making generalities about my own country that I can't prove one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    Thats very intresting.I thought that public jobs pay less in almost every country in the world.So how does the private schools get the best teachers?
    I would say that the pay itself has less to do with it. Yes, a private employeed teacher would earn more than a public teacher, but the private teacher would work far more and in the end earn less per worked hour.
    It's more a question of job satisfaction. Teachers are more than staff. They need to interact with the children as well as with the collegues. The working environment is most of the time better in a private school, due to smaller size, closer relationship between management and staff and as mentioned, the children are more "selected" (regardless if it's fair or not). Important to mention that most private school have a "theme". The school I own in southern Sweden is using music and art to increase the comfort and performance among children for example.

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