Well? What do you think?
Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Well? What do you think?
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." -Einstein
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
I think the Soviets had the right idea in regards to the Berlin Wall.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
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Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Regarding the problem in the US, I present (fresh from a similar argument elsewhere)
The Arkajaean Solution.
Step1) Declare a one off amnesty for all illegals (and their immediate/live in families) inside the US who can prove that they have lived there for 5 years or more. These people must then register with the tax department and either apply for citizenship or operate under the laws applying to foreigners living inside the US. Then start tracking down the rest who don't qualify, no more amnesties in future.
Step 2) Declare a single mandatory minimum wage for BOTH US citizens and non-US citizens, also give both equal or near equal rights in such things as employer provided insurance etc.. This eliminates the incentive for businesses to hire foreigners over American citizens. At the same time vastly increase the penalties for hiring illegal immigrants providing a disincentive.
Step 3) Increase border patrol budget to allow for proper surveillance and policing of border. It doesn't have to be the Great Wall of China, it just has to prevent any largescale movement and provide a genuine barrier to criminals.
Step 4) Announce bounty program, giving rewards to any person (US citizen or not) who provides information leading to the arrest of an illegal immigrant. All tip offs and payments can be kept anonymous.
Step 5) Bring in laws allowing local governments to seize assets in excess of $1000 USD acquired in the US by illegal immigrants.
Step 6) Create waystations for processing illegal immigrants, before returning them to their country of origin.
Now the beauty of this solution?
Lefties can't complain about the wages part, unless they want to argue against non-citizens getting higher wages. The only way they could do so would be to argue that non-citizens wages should be kept low, now the only people who would argue such are corporations/businesses etc. who exploit cheap labour etc.
That is the exact same people the PC whiners are usually whining about for giving miniscule wages to their employees.
Another beautiful thing about my suggestions is the Amnesty for all immigrants and their immediate families who have lived in the country 5 years or more.
Studies have repeatedly found that often the people MOST against further immigration are immigrant families themselves.
By making these people citizens, legitimising them and giving them security in the country one can most likely then rely on their support in the voting booths for measures to curb or stop further illegal immigration. Hows that for an enormous blow to the PC brigade?
As for my bounty deal you'll notice I mentioned US citizens AND non-US citizens, by doing such one can then have watchers SOUTH of the border, one can actually have Mexicans spying on Mexicans and turning their fellow countrymen in for the bounty.
Think of that border patrol deal those civillian types started up a while back (which was enormously successful) and now imagine that one had people on the Mexican side of the border doing just that for the bounties they could then recieve. People could even set up businesses hunting down illegals and collecting the bounties after reporting them to authorities.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
The Berlin Wall was far more to do with preventing emmigration rather than immigration. To seperate the US from Mexico with a wall would be nearly the equivalent of building a wall around Iraq to keep the insurgents from entering.I think the Soviets had the right idea in regards to the Berlin Wall.
Cowardice is to run from the fear;
Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
But to hold the line anyway.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Somebody had a good idea awhile back, where the US wouldn't give money to Mexico unless they tightened the borders excessively.
"Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite." - John Kenneth Galbraith
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Well I know that. I was just being facetious.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Illegal immigration is going to be the death of our fine nation.
We must stop it at all costs, no matter the amount of money it takes, or the human lives lost to stop it. The greater good for our nation is more important.
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
You realize of course this has been done once in completly by Ronald Regean. Regean granted a general immirgration amnesty back around 1985 if I remember correcty, and it has lead to some of the current immigration problems concerning illegals - especially since every administration since then has not attempt to enforce the immigration laws or man the border to prevent illegal crossings. Then one must address the states who when they do a traffic stop - find the illegal - do absolutely nothing to that illegal under those circumstances.
O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
...unbloody believable.
Did you even read my damned post or did you just post the above nonsense as soon as what passes for your brain thought of it?
Whatever it is you said Reagan did is nothing like what I brought up.
I suggest next time you 'snip' my post after you've actually read it.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Your suggestions are fairly reasonable compared to most. (I have more fundamental ideological disagreements, but I won't go into those).
However you do spoil the effect with meaningless references to PC Brigades.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
My solution is either reasonable or it is not, my mention of 'PC brigades' is a very real concern as in a supreme act of irony, it is those fools along with big businesses who stand most in the way of proper border control in the US.
The type of people who cry 'racism' when anyone dares to question their own country's immigration and border control policies. 'PC brigade' is a rather tame description for such ignorant people I would think.
You're entitled to dislike it though.
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
None.
I have no feeling on illegal immigration into the United States.
This is a great relief to me. I saw this thread earlier and automatically skipped it. I consciously skipped it again half an hour ago, in between work assignments, and then it occurred to me that it is highly unusual and quite pleasant that I have no feelings on a subject, none whatsoever. That hasn't happened to me in a long, long time. And it never happens, to my own chagrin, since I have become a journalist. And low and behold, here it does. As I look into this thread, my mind is like an empty cup full of oneness.
Thank you, friend.
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Why should you as it dosent concern you ?I have no feeling on illegal immigration into the United States.
Isnt this a contratidiction considering you just said you have no feelings on the matter?This is a great relief to me.
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Re: Your feeling on Illegal Immigration into the U.S.
Oooommmmm...
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
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