the worst death...

[VAE VICTUS]

who in history had the worst death?
i would say edward the 2nd if what i have read is true.or william wallace(and no im not saying that because of the movie,it was way worse than that,something along the lines of being castrated and dragged miles over cobblestones etc. you get the picture)

also i heard a tiny bit about a bzyantine emperor,i want to say alexis something but i think thats wrong,he supposedly died the gruesomest death a monarch had died up to that time.he was emperor after manuel i think(more than one manuel?manuel comnemus?

[Templar Knight]

Edward II: red hot poker up his....

[[DnC]]

The murderer of William of Orange Nassau (the Silent), Balthasar Gérard died horribly I imagined. It was however an act of justice, or revenge, whichever way you would like to interpret it considering it's brutality.

"Gérard was caught before he could flee Delft, and imprisoned. He was tortured before his trial on 13 July, where he was sentenced to be brutally — even by the standards of that time — killed. The magistrates sentenced that the right hand of Gérard should be burned off with a red-hot iron, that his flesh should be torn from his bones with pincers in six different places, that he should be quartered and disemboweled alive, that his heart should be torn from his bosom and flung in his face, and that, finally, his head should be taken off."

Source: Wikipedia.

I'm not entirely sure if the information is accurate however. What are people's experiences with Wiki? Historically accurate-wise I mean.

[Conqueror]

"and that, finally, his head should be taken off"

As if it was even necessary at that point. I guess they really wanted to be thorough...

[Knight Templar]

also i heard a tiny bit about a bzyantine emperor,i want to say alexis something but i think thats wrong,he supposedly died the gruesomest death a monarch had died up to that time.he was emperor after manuel i think(more than one manuel?manuel comnemus?

The emperor after Manuel I Comnenus was his young son, Alexius II Comnenus (1180-82). He was strangled by Andronicus's friends. Andronicus then beacme emperor (Andronicus I Comnenus),


Back on topic: the leaders of peasent rebellions usually suffered terrible deaths. Also, in 13th century one French nobleman (I think Thomas de Coucy) hanged his captured oponents for their balls and let them bleed.

[Dutch_guy]

Edward II get's my vote, what they did to him was just horrible...

[English assassin]

Funny question.

You would have to go some to suffer a worse fate than Marc Antony Bragodino, who commanded Famagusta under seige from the turks in 1570-71. Despite agreeing surrender terms that included safe passage, he was captured by the turks, severely beaten, had his ears and nose cut off, and was paraded in front of the troops. He was then give two weeks to regain his strength in prison, before being slowly skinned alive, not dying until he was skinned down to his waist.

After that his skin was stuffed and put on display in Istanbul, but I suppose by then he was past caring.

That said, a bog standard crucifixion doesn't seem to have been a bundle of laughs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/thisw...187561,00.html

[The Stranger]

i gues there are way more people that died gruesome deaths, but we dont know of m. i dont like to be a astronaut lost in space, just doing nothing for then hours dragged around by nothing knowing you'll die in 10 hours and there is nothing you can do till you sufficate. now thats gruesome, mentally

[Taurus]

I don't really know who had the worst death. However their is such a way I would not like to die but I'm not quite sure which period it is from or who invented it etc.
It is as follows: the victim is placed inside of a barrel. All around the inside of the barrel are spikes which do not touch the person inside initially. The vicitim is then sealed inside and the barrel is rolled down a hill. The result...

I find that pretty horrific

[Hurin_Rules]

I'm probably not remembering it exactly, but one punishment I remember from the medieval period was to be thrown into a sack with a rabid dog, a monkey and a poisonous snake, and then the sack would be beaten with staves until it stopped moving.

[The Stranger]

taurus the nazi's did that to 8 dutch resistance fighters that had blown up a train. they hid well in the swamp but the nazi's threathened to wipe out their village (not all but 4 were from that village) from existing (like in poland) if they didnt come out. so they came. the nazi's pushed them in a barrel with barbed wire and rolled it till they were dead

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

A nasty death was the commander of the garrison of Drogheda, Arthur Aston being beaten to death with his own wooden leg by the troops of Oliver Cromwell.

I also read about a ruler( i believe it was somewhere in India) that he had a brother crushed to death in a giant pestle and mortar so no blood touched the earth.

[Kraxis]

So far DnC has found the worst case.

I have another one. In itself the sentence wasn't too bad (relative to the others we have seen here), the man was supposed to be drawn.

But they simply couln't kill him that way, and since the sentence was for execution by drawing they began to cut his muscles and tendons. Afte many attempts the poor bugger was still alive with basically all his major muscles cut and nearly all joint-tendons cut as well. Finally he died from bloodloss or pain (it is from France right before the Revolution so details in that kind is rather lacking while the details in what they did is very deep). I think the executioner was punished heavily for this, not because he had tortured the man beyond all reason but because the man didn't die from the drawing.

NASTY!!!

[The Stranger]

hahhahahahaha. well not to laugh about but still hahhahahahah

[Kraxis]

A nasty death was the commander of the garrison of Drogheda, Arthur Aston being beaten to death with his own wooden leg by the troops of Oliver Cromwell.

I also read about a ruler( i believe it was somewhere in India) that he had a brother crushed to death in a giant pestle and mortar so no blood touched the earth.

Ohh man... That has got to be one of the most humiliating deaths!!! It is funny yet so horrible. Well done Cromwell, you found the magic line between perverse and humiliating. Man I have to sit and hold my mouth not to laugh at it, and it is horrible to feel like that.
Yuck!

[Kraxis]

Oh I have another one... Not the worst but certainly not among the more friendly deaths.

The Mongols after their victory at Khalka River, took the leaders of he captured Kievans, bound them together, lay them down on the ground, then lay heavy planks on top of them, so they could only barely breathe. Then in a disgusting move the Mongols commanders had a victoryfeast on the planks, eating all kinds of foods, even captured Russian foods they waved in front of the very slowly dying Russian leaders. At one point a man was supposedly still alive and the Mongol commanders had finished their feast. Angry at the man had the nerve survive they began to jump on the planks until he finally died.

[The Stranger]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha he had the ne..hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha how can think of such things, a real twisted brain

[VAE VICTUS]

i should'a been a mongol,shoulda learned to rope and ride,killing russian princes while i eat a feasttttt,taking the young girls bodies just like a barbarian,killing whatever i want,aahh i shoulda been a mongol.
(sang to the tune of "i shoulda been a cowboy.")


<<<<<mongols
------------------------------------ <<<<floor
<<<<<russians

[Colovion]

i forget where I read it or where it occured

Having a wife and child.

Being forced to watch them be tortured and mutilated and being forced to eat the parts which are cut off; going over a number of weeks before they're dead and you're totally emotionally drained and you're forced to eat yourself until death sets in.

Gives me the shivers.

[The Stranger]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha he had the ne..hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha how can think of such things, a real twisted brain

[The Stranger]

that went on accident, i was trying to say: one of the godfathers prolly. but i cant edit my posts anymore

[King Henry V]

The execution of the Earl of Atholl, King James I murderer, was particularlly gruesome: "On the first day he had a rope tied around his feet and hoisted in the air on a crane. The rope was allowed to drop towards the ground then stopped suddenly so his legs were pulled out of his sockets. He was then led off to a pillory and crowned with a red hot iron crown that was stamped 'king of traitors'. On the second day he was dragged through the streets of Edinburgh, strapped to a stretcher that was tied to the tail of the horse, jeered at and pelted with dung. The he was blinded and his flesh torn with red hot pincers. Only on the third was he finally hanged, drawn and quartered." Message to all republicans: don't mess with the king!

[Sjakihata]

Inkas and/or Aztecs poured gold in liquid form into the throats of Portugese or Spaniards.

[Leet Eriksson]

I read it from a certain website, but not sure if it is historically correct. It says that when the spanish first entered an aztec temple they saw piles of flayed skin and skinless bodies there that made the commander vomit from the gruesomness of the scene, since human sacrifice to the gods was common practice among the aztecs alot of slaves/peasants were sent into the temple to be flayed.

I don't remember what the link was, but i think it was posted on the org before, credit goes to whoever posted the link.

[[DnC]]

i forget where I read it or where it occured

Having a wife and child.

Being forced to watch them be tortured and mutilated and being forced to eat the parts which are cut off; going over a number of weeks before they're dead and you're totally emotionally drained and you're forced to eat yourself until death sets in.

Gives me the shivers.

That does sound like the worst one so far! Pisses me off just thinking about it.

[The Stranger]

Inkas and/or Aztecs poured gold in liquid form into the throats of Portugese or Spaniards.

some (native american) indians did that too. but like they didnt deserved it, to be rude now.

[Aenlic]

I've always thought Perillus of Athens's brazen bull invention for Phalaris, the tyrant of Agrigentum, was a rather cruel way to die. Perillus got to find out; since Phalaris put him in it first to test it out.

[Kraxis]

I read it from a certain website, but not sure if it is historically correct. It says that when the spanish first entered an aztec temple they saw piles of flayed skin and skinless bodies there that made the commander vomit from the gruesomness of the scene, since human sacrifice to the gods was common practice among the aztecs alot of slaves/peasants were sent into the temple to be flayed.

I don't remember what the link was, but i think it was posted on the org before, credit goes to whoever posted the link.

Actually they did it to captive warriors. In fact teh Aztecs kept a neigbouring state alive and free only to make sure they had a ready source of captives. When they began to run out of 'sacrificial lambs', they declared war on that state, had a lopsided battle and went home with captives.
Cynical!

But they did die very fast, and it was a great honour.
They were killed by having the heart cut out in less than 20 seconds (which has since been reproduced on dummies).

[Proletariat]

I'm probably not remembering it exactly, but one punishment I remember from the medieval period was to be thrown into a sack with a rabid dog, a monkey and a poisonous snake, and then the sack would be beaten with staves until it stopped moving.

I remember reading about the Romans doing this. I think it was Livy, but anyway it was with a chicken, a dog, a monkey and a snake and the sack was thrown into the sea. I think it was a death reserved for politicians who were bought off or some other corruption type crime.

[Hurin_Rules]

Oh, I just remembered another medieval one: the death of Hugh Despenser in the early 14th century. As part of his execution, they cut off his genitals... and then burned them to ash before his very eyes.

It always makes me wonder where they got the balls to do that.