Quote Originally Posted by Martok
I second that; HRE is my least favorite. You start with a crapload of mediocre provinces, most of which are landlocked. You're completely surrounded, mostly by other Catholic factions, so you're virtually guaranteed to get ex-commed at least once every couple decades (if not more). And by the time your really cool units become available, you've usually won the game already.

Come on you guys, you are hurting my feelings talking about 'my boys' .
For me it is different because almost one in ten of the units have the name
of Friedrich and my last name is Frederick. If some Martoks and
Roarks were conquering the world wouldn't you like that certain faction.
It is crazy, I know, but it brings some extra flavor to the game for me .