Quote Originally Posted by bretwalda
Just kill 'em. You have a big empire you should be able to defeat them. Choose your terrain and kill them in a defensive battle, use raid and pillaging of their heartland (or hinterland ) and when you have the upper hand start attacking them. Remember defensive battles are easier than attacking. However the Byz are rarely archer heavy so you can try to wear them down in offensive battles as well...
Anyway, just my 0,02 forints, post more details, screenies as well!

Thanks for the tip They sure got a bunch of troops .
So much for my 'tidy' campaign .