New unit - Sassanid Sughdian Warrior

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

At the com, go and check it out.

Not sure about the accuracy but I must say this one looks very nice, probably the best one they've unveiled so far aesthetically.

[The Stranger]

nasty!!!

[Taurus]

This unit is the best so far imo. Looks very cool.

[Shaun]

it looks like a barbarian! looks like the saxon keel!

[scorillo]

yes...i hope the sassanids will have eastern looking units...otherwise it will be uncool

[Viking]

Heh. Finally a cool unit.

[Steppe Merc]

Totally wrong. The best Sassanian infantry was the Dailamites, who even the Romans feared.

[Captain Fishpants]

Totally wrong. The best Sassanian infantry was the Dailamites, who even the Romans feared.

Hmm. Yes, the Romans feared (as much as the Romans feared anyone) these mountain-dwelling and bellicose tribes, but our research indicated that the Dailamites were only considered as a 'mountain people': a problem that needed careful watching during the Sassanid period.

Their (formal) use as troops only came about under later Persian dynasties, particularly after the arrival of Islam in the area. This is out of period for the expansion pack.

However, the Sassanids do get access to hillmen-style units in their army list.

[edyzmedieval]

Hmm. Yes, the Romans feared (as much as the Romans feared anyone) these mountain-dwelling and bellicose tribes, but our research indicated that the Dailamites were only considered as a 'mountain people': a problem that needed careful watching during the Sassanid period.

Their (formal) use as troops only came about under later Persian dynasties, particularly after the arrival of Islam in the area. This is out of period for the expansion pack.

However, the Sassanids do get access to hillmen-style units in their army list.

Here's a good answer.

It's good that CA replied to this issue.

[Steppe Merc]

Cap'n Fishy, what about the looks of these guys? Are you saying that the Sughdians would have been equipped in this matter? I doubt it.
Dalaimites might be a bit out of period, but they still existed, if under a different name. It would be far better than the Sughdians that were made.

[aleh]

Question:

And I may be wrong because of my bad eyesight, but are the Sassanids wearins masks?

And also, whatever happened to the tower shield for the Commitenes?

[TB666]

And also, whatever happened to the tower shield for the Commitenes?

The tower shields are gone during this period.

As for the unit, it looks cool.
Their weapon looks like it can do some serious damage.

[edyzmedieval]

We'll see what it can do....

[Steppe Merc]

Aleh, I think just a spangenhelm with a naval, not the typical cavalry mask or the half mask that is often associated with the Sassanians.

[King Mon]

where can i check these other units out...the ones they did b4 this new one

[Steppe Merc]

Oh, Fishy I saw the Osprey book, Attila and the Nomad Hordes, in which CA based the Sughdian warrior off of. It was dated 8th century, which is even more off than the Dailamites.

[Refnulf von Holland]

Oh, Fishy I saw the Osprey book, Attila and the Nomad Hordes, in which CA based the Sughdian warrior off of. It was dated 8th century, which is even more off than the Dailamites.

Actually it says 6-8th century which would be 500-700’s right. But there are many sources out there that state they where used by the Sassanid before this time period. I am sure from what I read that they were used but the information is vary limted on how they were armed during this period. Of course most sources are vague during this period.

https://img364.imageshack.us/img364/...sthuns11ox.jpg

[edyzmedieval]

Another historical problem for CA.

I wonder how are they gonna solve it.

[Refnulf von Holland]

Another historical problem for CA.
I wonder how are they gonna solve it.

Whats another historical problem?

If you mean the Sassanid Sughdian Warrior then why is it a problem they are fine for this period.

[TB666]

Whats another historical problem?

I think he meant that the sources are bad in this period and how CA is gonna solve that.
Except the color, CA has really hit this unit spot on it seems.

[Zenicetus]

Actually it says 6-8th century which would be 500-700’s right. But there are many sources out there that state they where used by the Sassanid before this time period. I am sure from what I read that they were used but the information is vary limted on how they were armed during this period. Of course most sources are vague during this period.

https://img364.imageshack.us/img364/...sthuns11ox.jpg

I know this is a minor issue compared to whether or not the unit was actually in combat during this period.... but that illustration (in the link above) is a perfect example of what I've been griping about with the colors. The muted palette looks much more believable, compared to the high-saturation, cartoon colors in the CA warrior model. And in most other models in this game.

[_Mithrandir_]

I can't find any information. Where is it?

The best I've got are:

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...ID=28726.topic
http://www.totalwar.com/community/download.htm (a 2004 greek unit)

[_Mithrandir_]

Got it. You can find it here:

http://www.totalwar.com/community/rtwbi.htm