Why do mercenaries suck?

**Budwise** · 08-20-2005, 12:08

Also, you mentioned Cowardness.

I don't think so, to be a Mercenary - you must be attracted to the idea of killing others. If you didn't, you would be a farmer. I bet Mercenaries in real life back then were ruthless thugs and murderers that made money off of warfare or assasinations.

I dunno if you all know this but I was watching the History Channel and back then, Ransoming back prisoners was a big deal, more like an investment than for mercy of the POW's. Entire battles as well as battleplans were based on Ransom purposes. Mercenaries would get a share of this as well as their skyrocketed rate for being in the army to begin with. I mean, has anyone went straight for the king not only to crush the enemy but because you really needed that ransom money, I would be lying to say that I haven't.

Want more proof, watch or if they revised it after recent evidence has been found - look up the battle of Agincourt.
About 1500 British (give or take a few hundred, it was on earlier this week on the History Channel, went up against 20,000 French solders AND WON. To top it off, the British army was made of nothing but Archers and ONE Men at Arms. The French had Two Crossbow units, a bunch of Men at Arms and Knights.

Yeah, the weather and the lack of armor for the English helped out because a lot of the Armored Knights got stuck in the mud and drowned. Most of the English was wearing cloth so this wasn't a problem for them. Other were too crowed in the "Natural Funnel" that was there and crushed each others but the main reason (YES I HAVE A POINT) they won is because the ENTIRE FRENCH ARMY (NEGLECTING THE CROSSBOWMEN I MIGHT ADD) rushed the Men at Arms for the better ransom leaving the Longbowmen (Which are considered a garbage unit) to attack and surround the French from the sides. And anyone who plays this game knows what that means.

Also, I might add that after extensive research, the longbow's arrows COULD NOT PENETRATE the newer steel plating that the French had that day. The tips of the Arrows was made of Iron and buckeled when in a direct hit against the French Armor.

The casulties were a lot higher than they should be because the English King (Who was commander in the battle and was competent unlike in this game) choose to EXECUTE ALL CAPTIVE FRENCH SOLDERS FOR FEAR THAT THEY WOULD STRIKE BACK. Once again, no mercy rules the forum board.

The only thing that I wish I knew is was it FMAA or CMAA that the English had that day?

In Conclusion, it was nice to have something intelligent to add or read without having to wait for Eatyourgreens to add his half page worth of two cents.

**VikingHorde** · 08-21-2005, 18:26

Originally Posted by Budwise

Want more proof, watch or if they revised it after recent evidence has been found - look up the battle of Agincourt.
About 1500 British (give or take a few hundred, it was on earlier this week on the History Channel, went up against 20,000 French solders AND WON. To top it off, the British army was made of nothing but Archers and ONE Men at Arms. The French had Two Crossbow units, a bunch of Men at Arms and Knights.

I belive there were about 6-7.000 British vs. about 20.000 French. The brits had 5000 longbows, the rest were Men at Arms and a low number of knight. It was an impressive battle, love seeing programs and read books about it

**m52nickerson** · 08-22-2005, 04:47

I'm finding that so of the Cav mercs can be helpful it the desert (if you play a catholic faction) can help. Many units of the units you can get are better then the Mounted Sargeants you would normally have to take into the heat with you.

**Martok** · 08-22-2005, 07:22

Originally Posted by m52nickerson

I'm finding that so of the Cav mercs can be helpful it the desert (if you play a catholic faction) can help. Many units of the units you can get are better then the Mounted Sargeants you would normally have to take into the heat with you.

Or you can just do what I do, which is to play as the Spanish all the time and descend on the Muslims with hordes of Jinnettes.

**antisocialmunky** · 08-22-2005, 12:14

Jinettes > j00 until they bring out the camel stick.

**Geezer57** · 08-22-2005, 23:28

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Jinettes > j00 until they bring out the camel stick.

Jinette sees camel, Jinette switches to skirmish mode using javelins. Camel run speed = 14 (charge = 16), Jinette run speed = 24 (charge = 26). Who's going to catch who in this scenario?

**dgfred** · 08-23-2005, 00:06

Originally Posted by Geezer57

Jinette sees camel, Jinette switches to skirmish mode using javelins. Camel run speed = 14 (charge = 16), Jinette run speed = 24 (charge = 26). Who's going to catch who in this scenario?

Good to know!

I forsee bad times ahead for the camel
population

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**Budwise** · 08-23-2005, 10:00

Originally Posted by Geezer57

Jinette sees camel, Jinette switches to skirmish mode using javelins. Camel run speed = 14 (charge = 16), Jinette run speed = 24 (charge = 26). Who's going to catch who in this scenario?

Easy, the Berber Camel when they fire back.