Lets try this again.

[Devastatin Dave]

Having more mental capacity than DevDave?

Dammit, beaten to the punchline, sort of...

[Goofball]

Dammit, beaten to the punchline, sort of...

I'm glad I headed you off at the pass Dave, because I wanted to make sure that you didn't post the punchline to that joke, which I have heard before and find extremely insensitive and heartless. I have a family member with a severe mental disability, so I really don't see any humor in "retard" jokes. They are not, as Proletariat described yours, "classic." They are just good old-fashioned mean.

Thanks for not following through with it.

[Devastatin Dave]

I'm glad I headed you off at the pass Dave, because I wanted to make sure that you didn't post the punchline to that joke, which I have heard before and find extremely insensitive and heartless. I have a family member with a severe mental disability, so I really don't see any humor in "retard" jokes. They are not, as Proletariat described yours, "classic." They are just good old-fashioned mean.

Thanks for not following through with it.

Don't you think you are being a bit overly sensitive? Afterall, you continuosly berate the mental capacity of the President of the United States and many members of this forum. Kind of hypocritical don't you think? Of course you don't, since its only offensive if YOU don't agree with it, very typical.

[Xiahou]

They're a bunch of idiots who, because of their opposition to the Iraq war, seek to dishonor the men who fought in WWII. But hey, at least they won't get tourist dollars.

Crazed Rabbit

That about sums up my opinion. They're free to behave stupidly if they choose to- that doesn't mean we can't call it what it is.

[Proletariat]

Having more mental capacity than DevDave?

What if Dave had a family member with a poor mental capacity?

[Goofball]

Don't you think you are being a bit overly sensitive? Afterall, you continuosly berate the mental capacity of the President of the United States and many members of this forum. Kind of hypocritical don't you think? Of course you don't, since its only offensive if YOU don't agree with it, very typical.

Wow.

Apparently you took my last post as a form of scolding aimed at you. It honestly wasn't. It was meant as a sincere thank-you for not posting a joke that I personally find to be mean and hurtful.

At any rate Dave, I challenge you to find anywhere in any post ever, where I referred to GWB or anybody else as a "retard." There is a very big difference between saying something like "Bush is an idiot," and telling a joke that goes "What's better than winning the gold medal in the Special Olympics?.... Not being a retard." And for the record, I do not "continuosly berate the mental capacity of the President of the United States and many members of this forum." Yes, I have lost my temper a few times and let sarcasm get away with me, but for the most part it has been limited to implications about a person's lack of understanding of what is being said. If you're going to make a statement like that, back it up.

Honestly Dave, is this the fight you want to pick? That telling jokes about the mentally handicapped is a good and acceptable practice, and that people who don't like them are being overly sensitive? You really want to hitch your wagon to this one?

Think it over.

[Goofball]

What if Dave had a family member with a poor mental capacity?

Then he would already know that telling jokes about the mentally handicapped is mean, and I wouldn't be having this conversation with him.

[Proletariat]

Every single person here who cracked a San Fran joke has at least one gay relative, including me.

I'll never understand how anyone can fly off the handle simply because someone else said a few words. If I was that sensitive about anything I thought I might have an apopleptic emotional response over, I'd at least try to hide it by under reacting and not dole out the satisfiction to the person. But, that's me.

Although I won't understand, hope you're not too mad, Goof.

[Devastatin Dave]

Goof, I PM'd you...

I apologize to all in this thread for making light of something that should not be made light of. I especially apologize to you Goof...

So, lets get back on topic so that this thread can continue to be debated...

[Papewaio]

Every single person here who cracked a San Fran joke has at least one gay relative, including me.

I'll never understand how anyone can fly off the handle simply because someone else said a few words.

I think the difference is in the ability to defend oneself.

Someone who is mentally retarded is going to have a hard time in a verbal match up.

On the other hand a gay person can defend themselves in a verbal dustup.

[Proletariat]

Fair enough.

[PanzerJaeger]

"What's better than winning the gold medal in the Special Olympics?.... Not being a retard."

Ohh so thats the punchline? Lol thats a good one..

Take jokes for what they are... jokes. Oversensitivity, especially when the joke doesnt affect you, is.. well.. gay.


Oh and Im glad San Fran didnt accept the Iowa, they'd probably paint it pink.. Id prefer a piece of history as important as that be kept out of the land of bundled sticks.

[Goofball]

Goof, I PM'd you...

I apologize to all in this thread for making light of something that should not be made light of. I especially apologize to you Goof...

So, lets get back on topic so that this thread can continue to be debated...

Thanks for the PM Dave, and apology most definitely accepted. For my part, I know I come off as kind of a fussy, prude old lady sometimes, and self-righteous indignation (a pose that doesn't really look good on anybody) gets the better of me.



Back OT:

This decision with respect to the Iowa, as has been said, was made democratically. And since it's not in violation of either the California or the United States' Constitution, people can bitch about it all they want, but they still have to respect it.

I personally think San Fran picked the wrong way to protest the Iraq war, but what the hell do I know...

[Devastatin Dave]

Oh and Im glad San Fran didnt accept the Iowa, they'd probably paint it pink.. Id prefer a piece of history as important as that be kept out of the land of bundled sticks.

Good point...
They's probably have the Village People performing "In the Navy" on the deck for the grand opening of the museum/ship.

[scooter_the_shooter]

They don't deserve the boat any way. I say they put it where there are patriotic people who deserve to have a great piece of history

[RabidGibbon]

Originally posted by PanzerJager

Im glad San Fran didnt accept the Iowa, they'd probably paint it pink

Originally posted by Devastatin Dave

They's probably have the Village People performing "In the Navy" on the deck for the grand opening of the museum/ship.

Sigh, what an opportunity missed, Even now I can see the village people standing on one of the turrets of the newly pink Iowa, getting down to the beat, whilst beneath them on deck a "Gay pride" rally took place.

It would have been one of the defining images of the new century.