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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazul
    well they better do something or ells they starve
    Not at all. They start a party and all not wanting to work at all will soon end up in majority position and tell everyone that works to pay more taxes. They will invent progressive tax and make bullshit stories that "they can afford" and "they should have solidarity"........

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    I had to vote Gah. The Estates of the Scottish Parliament is quite an ingenius plan for government, however. Landowners and lords, representatives of the kirk, burgh commissioners. It is estimated that 2000-3000 people could take a seat, but only about 200 ever did.

    This sort of make up would be the best, I say. The great unwashed masses are uneducated and too easily influenced by the media.
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    Those with the proper knowledge of governance.
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    Autocracy can be both the best form of government and the worst, it all depends on who's in charge. That's why I chose democracy, it's largely inefficient, complicated and inherently conservative (even when changes have to be made to assure the wellbeing of the people) but it's still the best thing we've got.
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    Republic.

    Votership should be fairly restricted however. I tend to agree with some of Heinlein's models.

    1. Votership restricted to those who have served a term of federal service -- but current federal service employees may not vote.

    2. A significant but not exhorbitant poll tax and quiz requiring the voter to display some basic knowledge of the sciences, current issues in that election, and/or their own form of government. If you pass, you get a full refund and the right to vote in that election. If you fail, they keep the poll tax and you don't vote.

    Restrictions based upon wealth, age, gender, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, height, weight, size of coupling appartus or whatnot can only be discriminatory in a perjorative sense.

    I suspect none of these will ever come to fruition, so I favor the system of which I am a part over other republican forms -- its the best I can see.

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    The ruling class should be the military, who cooperate with industrialists for the betterment of the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    The ruling class should be the military, who cooperate with industrialists for the betterment of the nation.
    sieg heil?............. sorry couldnt resist saying that


    Anyway man, you really are anti-intellectual arent you?
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    Gah of course. The masses should not rule, they should be ruled by their elected representatives. All other options mentioned above have been tried and ended in failure. Democracy is the most peaceful, dynamic and creative form of rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJager
    The ruling class should be the military, who cooperate with industrialists for the betterment of the nation.
    And are you in the miitary, or do you plan to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Not at all. They start a party and all not wanting to work at all will soon end up in majority position and tell everyone that works to pay more taxes. They will invent progressive tax and make bullshit stories that "they can afford" and "they should have solidarity"........
    wow, you really dont have high thoughts of the masses do you? you know, every human has a self-preservation urge inside them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazul
    wow, you really dont have high thoughts of the masses do you? you know, every human has a self-preservation urge inside them.
    Well, it's not so much my thoughts as reality. Just look at the French.....

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    Democracy (in it's current form) has not been around long enough to judge whether it is successful or not.
    Last edited by Grey_Fox; 08-23-2005 at 18:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    Well, it's not so much my thoughts as reality. Just look at the French.....
    Ouch, how evil of you. *looks around for French people* Well they havent attacked you yet!
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