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    It's just a name, however, some ultra-nationalistic-atheists can't stand to have anything slightly associated with a foreign culture/religion and for better "understanding" a new "neutral" term must be created even thought it means exactly the same thing.

    It's as if they just couldn't live with it, their own religion is so weak, they are so spiritually insecure, the original term seem to hurt them right on the weak spot.

    So, have a little pitty, and let them heretics have their wishes, it's not only "politically correct" crap, it's the least you can do to make their life a little less miserable.

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    I use BCE and CE because not only am I not a Christian, I'm an Orthodox Jew, and I would prefer not to refer to a year as "Year of Our Lord" or "Before the Messiah", even if it's in another language and abbreviated. It smacks of blasphemy, even though it obviously isn't actually blasphemy, even by Judaism's rather strict standards. As far as normal people go, yeah, I could see why you'd think it's overly PC.
    Quote Originally Posted by amritochates
    BCE: Before the Christian Era
    ACE:After Christian Era


    ref:http://www.stands4.com/bc.asp?c=TIMEZONES
    We are not, however, after the Christian era, we are in it. Thus "CE". If you consult a source that doesn't include every abbreviation anyone's ever used anywhere, such as the AHD, you will find CE but not ACE, because ACE is vanishingly rare. Only if you search something like Acronym Finder, which lists pretty much everything, will you ever find ACE. CE can be found in any authoritative general-purpose dictionary. Notice that the Wikipedia article you linked to doesn't even mention the variant.

    Basically, ACE is really rare and logically makes no sense. Everyone uses CE.
    Quote Originally Posted by amritochates
    in fact our english is gramatically more accurate than the native speakers themselves(A fact that repeats itself with all languages with non-native speakers being in a majority of cases gramatically more sound)
    That comes as a surprise to me after having spoken to quite a number of Indian customer service representatives for various companies, but your English seems to be pretty good, certainly. According to this, "in the 1991 census, . . . about 11% of those polled . . . claimed that English was their first, second or third language." That suggests to me that either a) Indians tend to learn a ton of languages, or b) not many Indians are fluent in English, at least as of 15 years ago. Also, this says "English is spoken as a second language by somewhere between 50 and 250 million Indians", but not spoken as a primary or "native" language by pretty much anyone. It cites the Ethnologue, which is pretty reputable, although a cursory look at their website doesn't give me any useful info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wardo
    It's as if they just couldn't live with it, their own religion is so weak, they are so spiritually insecure, the original term seem to hurt them right on the weak spot.
    I don't care about this particular debate in the least. The letters don't mean a thing to me. BC and AD are just fine.

    However, your argument could be generously called way off base. You want to speak in absurdities? I could easily make an equally absurd, amusing statement about the insecurities of faith, but I think it would be crass to stoop to such lows.

    Keep statements like this where they belong, in the backroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wardo

    So, have a little pitty, and let them heretics have their wishes, it's not only "politically correct" crap, it's the least you can do to make their life a little less miserable.
    Okay, I'm a heretic, yeah...

    And you wonder why I loathe you people

    And for the reccord it isnt about "political correctness" its about overzealous and self-important fanatics who wan't to force their religion down the throat of everyone else, and mesaures to check them.

    Khelvan, I apologize for adding wood to the fire as it were, BUT I'm not about to let some shmuck who thinks its the damned middle ages call me a bloody Heretic!
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