Iranian Fundamentalist Calls for Assassination of Bush

[Papewaio]

Iranian Fundamentalists who have been associated with the current mayor of Tehran have come out stating that Bush is such a terrific danger to the people of Iraq that he should be assassinated.

They went on to state to their followers that the USA is going to use Iraq as a launching pad for Christianity and capitalism that will strike at the heart of Islam. That all this could stop quickly and easily with the assassination of the leader of the USA.

Other alternatives were suggested by slightly more moderate members of kidnapping the President or financing opposition political groups within the USA or countries that are aligned with the US.

[scooter_the_shooter]

If they do that its time to show who is the real boss.......tatical NUKE time, Make them beg for mercy by the time the dust clears.

[Grey_Fox]

Meh. No different to this.

[Steppe Merc]

Caesar, nukes are never an option. Can we at least have something original? Like supporting a rebel Iranian president, or overthrowing the government from within or something?

[Navaros]

They went on to state to their followers that the USA is going to use Iraq as a launching pad for Christianity and capitalism that will strike at the heart of Islam.

Bush is no Christian and certainly won't be bringing Christianity to anywhere (even the USA as a country is not at all Christian)

however, they are right on the other 2 counts.

[scooter_the_shooter]

Caesar, nukes are never an option. Can we at least have something original? Like supporting a rebel Iranian president, or overthrowing the government from within or something?

Yes they are, And I think they should have been used after 911.


Besides stepp you are a hippie.....I thought you guys could not support any violence?

[Steppe Merc]

I was being sarcastic.

I think that it is insane to use nukes, since it would probably end up ending the world, since everyone would use it against each other. Isreal would probably end up firing their's then, Russia would, then Pakistan, then India then North Korea...

And a few wars may have been neccassary, such as WW2. But as a whole, I am not for violence in any form, though self defense or in defense of loved ones is justified.

edit: And I am not a true hippie, though I hold them in great esteem. For example, I don't live in a commune, and I take showers every day.

[Grey_Fox]

Meh. So it's ok if influential Amercians say that foreign heads of state should be assassinated, but if foreigners say that Bush should be assassinated you want to nuke them?

[scooter_the_shooter]

Roberts is not going to take action on that....these guys might

[Steppe Merc]

Of course it's totally different! Americans are magical and always right, while all not Americans are all evil!
Besides, he's just an old crazy Christian, and he most Christians aren't like him. But all Muslims are evil, just like these guys.

[_Martyr_]

Oh Ok, is this serious? I thought it was a statement Pape was making about the calls for Chavez's assassination...?

[scooter_the_shooter]

Steppe you really are starting to get me mad with your comments on the USA. You seem to show no respect for the country and think its "just" lines on a map.

I can't stand the people who live in country get all the benefits of living in that country but then show no pride in it.

[Steppe Merc]

Where did I disrespect it? Sure I was sarcastic, but when did I say I disliked it?

[Strike For The South]

America wont be destroyed thats what the wall is for...no one will act on robetsons saying. you wont see a good ol boy with a 22 down in venzulea aiming for the prez. these guys will take it seriously nad will most probaly try some attempt at it

[_Martyr_]

Steppe you really are starting to get me mad with your comments on the USA. You seem to show no respect for the country and think its "just" lines on a map.

Of course, I forgot, America is flawless and infinitely superior to all other nations in all aspects. Get over yourself! There is nothing devine or bloody tear-wrenching about your country, you would feel the same about any other you just happened to be born in. Get some perspective!

[Strike For The South]

Of course, I forgot, America is flawless and infinitely superior to all other nations in all aspects. Get over yourself! There is nothing devine or bloody tear-wrenching about your country, you would feel the same about any other you just happened to be born in. Get some perspective!

We are not deivine were just not as stupid as some of the zealots in Iran

[_Martyr_]

Really?

[Strike For The South]

Yes

[Redleg]

Now this broke down to insults and demonization really quick.


@Ceasar - Steppe is entitled to view his country any old way that he choses to view it. He can express his opinion any old way that he choses to express it - with some limitations toward not causing a riot or advocating violence on another.

He has just as much a right to praise or question the actions of the nation as a whole. You might want to read the Constitution a little bit.

Now if he was to go to Iran and speak to the Iran's and say go to this thing - then his actions warrant condemnation - but until he does something like that or as equally stupid - he is entitled to speak his mind.

Something that the Constitution allows him to do. To deny him his right to speak his mind - well makes us like Iran more then I care to think.

[scooter_the_shooter]

Of course, I forgot, America is flawless and infinitely superior to all other nations in all aspects. Get over yourself! There is nothing devine or bloody tear-wrenching about your country, you would feel the same about any other you just happened to be born in. Get some perspective!

I do feel the US is the best place in the world to live in...look at the UK its like a nanny state.

They wont let you own guns in your own house.

The police can issue things that won't let you do lawful activities (I forget what they are called though) These things won't lets some people go near bridges.

I hear air rifles and hunting knives are soon to be registered

And pointy kitchen knives were almost banned.


Shows how much the government officials in the UK trust their own people

.............

red leg

I never said he should not be able to think that way. I just said I dont like that he does. The constitution also guarantees me the right to not like his opinion and allows him to not like mine.

[Strike For The South]

I do feel the US is the best place in the world to live in...look at the UK its like a nanny state.

They wont let you own guns in your own house.

The police can issue things that won't let you do lawful activities (I forget what they are called though) These things won't lets some people go near bridges.

I hear air rifles and hunting knives are soon to be registered

And pointy kitchen knives were almost banned.


Shows how much the government officials in the UK trust their own people

And back to topic we go and go and go

[scooter_the_shooter]

Ok south I will get back on topic.

Well what should the response be if they do try and attack bush?

[Shottie]

As a whole America is good. The country it self is a very good country. But the goverment is just full of shit. If our goverment was better then our country would be the envy of all. All Americans should learn to respect other countries and their way of life instead of trying to be the big guy on the block and think you are the best. BTW I live in America.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

But the goverment is just full of shit.

This goes for them all not just ours.

[Hurin_Rules]

I think Papewaio is making a rhetorical point.

[_Martyr_]

Seems someone finally picked up on that as well. See my first post.


@ceasar010, why are you telling me about how things are in Great Britain? Whats that got to do with anything? Plus, maybe the Britons hold other things than being allowed own lethal weapons in high regard. Since when do we judge how great a place is by how many nasty things you can legally own that you could kill your neighbours with?

[lars573]

_Martyr_ I'll tell you this right now don't try and understand why yanks like their firearms so much. You'll either go insane or turn into a Texan, and since Texans are the lowest form of white man in existance neither out comes are desireable.

On topic who gives a sh*t what some ignorant Iranian says really. Does he even know realistically how challenging it would be to assassinate Bush these days? I've given this some thought and for a brown muslim to even gete near enough to Bush would be nigh on impossible.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

If Pappy was not being entirely "tongue in cheek," it would be fair to note that Iranian concerns about US involvement in Iraq (as he describes them) are dead-on accurate.

A successful democratic republic building its standard of living through effective capitalism and the rule of a non-theocratically dominated system of laws is the LAST thing the current Iranian rulers should desire.

Their covert support of anti-US/anti-Republican forces in Iraq is eminently logical from their perspective. If the Iraqis and we become more successful, it would almost make sense for them to intervene to "protect their Shiite brothers" and knock the whole apple cart over (even though we'd kick 'em, I believe this would gut the nation-building process for a considerable time).

I want the USA and Iraq to win, and to thereby change the Middle East, but I have no illusions as to others holding a divergent objective.

Caeser#10 -- Can we take your sterling support for individual gun ownership as a given from here on? I am willing to bet that most of the others frequenting this forum are more than aware of your stance.

Steppe': You and I disagree on a myriad of issues, though I defend your right to express yourself. I would note, however, that there are some few contexts where the use of nuclear weapons becomes "thinkable." I therefore long for the time when all parties agree to dismantle these tools. We have plenty of other mass destructive choices -- without half-lives -- available to us. I doubt I will see such an end in my lifetime, though since you have 20+ years advantage here, perhaps you will.

Seamus

[_Martyr_]

_Martyr_ I'll tell you this right now don't try and understand why yanks like their firearms so much. You'll either go insane or turn into a Texan, and since Texans are the lowest form of white man in existance neither out comes are desireable.

Believe me, Ive been around here long enough to know! [Edit... That certain Americans have a firearm fetish, not anything bad about Texans]


As for the original post, its most likely not true. Pape was just making a rhetorical statement... to do with the calls for the assissination of Hugo Chavez.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

...and since Texans are the lowest form of white man in existance neither out comes are desireable.

Was this a racist gibe -- aside from taking a shot at the Lone Star state?

Seamus