Armies In Castles (Campaign Issues)

[Zild]

I'm trying to get a bit of a discussion going on the subject of armies in castles - maybe I'll learn something from it? I'm talking campaign issues here, not battle issues.

To start us off, I've noticed that when an army in a castle is bribed, it revolts immediately. No warning. No one-turn wait. The province and castle change hands immediately.

This is a bit of a problem, no? Rather than lose my province to a bribing faction without the option of defending it, I keep all of my forces outside of the castles. But when you start training new units, they appear inside the castle - and given that everybody else is outside, their very small number make them much cheaper to bribe!

So are there any bonuses to keeping armies in fortifications? I've always suspected they were more expensive to bribe - is this true?

When a faction has an army inside a castle and one outside, does the province switch loyalty straight away, or does a fight ensue? Who counts as the attacker?

Feel free to add as many questions as you answer!

[Budwise]

To start us off, I've noticed that when an army in a castle is bribed, it revolts immediately. No warning. No one-turn wait. The province and castle change hands immediately.

Hold on, you actually get your armies to be bribe. To this day, only one army changed hands from my side to theirs.

What are you all doing differently to be getting all of these interesting games. My consist of -

Build up Province
Build up army
Attack

Rinse, Lather, and Repeat

I hope when I can play campaign mode, I will have an interesting game, thats why I will play the Turks on high period.

[yesdachi]

I have never had the AI bribe one of my armies. is this common?

When I bribe I often run into the “this guy wants more money” issue that always throws my attack plans off.

I have never noticed a difference between in or out of the castle.

[mfberg]

Bribe them both the same turn or bribe the one outside the first turn and the one inside the second turn (I usually use three emmisaries on each). I haven't seen the cost of bribing change between inside and outside, the v&v's of the general commanding the stack seem to be the main thing affecting cost (besides units in the stack of course).

mfberg

[Zild]

Bribe them both the same turn or bribe the one outside the first turn and the one inside the second turn (I usually use three emmisaries on each).

I usually do the same...

I've had the occasional army bribed in Early as the English (the campaign I play longest and most often). In my current VI (2.1) Mercians game, the Scots have bribed two armies of mine over the course of about three turns - I think certain factions are more likely to act in such ways, and the Scots might also have an abundance of wealth right now, I guess...

[Patron]

"Build up Province
Build up army
Attack

Rinse, Lather, and Repeat

I hope when I can play campaign mode, I will have an interesting game, thats why I will play the Turks on high period."

You have to throw yourseld into endless wars and on expert mode until you come across barriers and have to find over ways of negotiating around them. I'm always finding myself thinking how useful 10 spies would be and 50 bishops to convert my newly conquerred lands.