The King's acumen

**yesdachi** · 08-25-2005, 14:53

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

But it's one of those rare examples of where you can give two titles to the same person. Giving it to the guy who is already in charge of your richest province will be a great boon to your economy.

At first glance, the Chancellery just looks expensive and useless but, if your top acumen Gov is looking after somewhere like Flanders, Sweden, Khazar, Constantiople, Antioch, Tripoli, Venice, Sicily, Egypt then the investment is going to pay for itself rather quickly.

You are right on the money (pun intended

). It has been my experience that each quill a governor has is worth +10%. The chancellery is one of the few opportunities that are available to double title a general with a quill enhancer. The only other one I can think of is the archbishop (I think that is what it is called) title you get after building a cathedral. There may be an equivalent one for the Muslims but I’m not sure.

**EatYerGreens** · 08-25-2005, 15:53

Not sure about the Turks but I know for certain that Eggies and Almos both get a 'Qadi-al-Qada', right from turn one of the game. That can be a double.

I honestly don't know what the Cathy/Ortho equivalent of it is, or if it's connected to a building. Do they start with a ready-built Royal Palace?

My (Byz) Gov of Constantiople already has his second title - Constable of the Palace and I think Gov of Antioch got the chancellorship. Cathedral completes in 1197, 8 years from where I'm at.

My King of Naples is still in office. He picked up 'Humanist' (+3) AND something else (+1), taking him up to Ac-8! I wonder if the wrap-around bug might mean a +2 boost would be wasted on him?

Anatolia is Ac7, Nicaea is a 6, Rhodes gives +2, making another 7 and nearly everyone else is a 4, so I need shades to look at my income fiigures at the mo

**dgfred** · 08-25-2005, 16:15

Would it have the same effect to just give the Chancellery title (or Worms in
my HRE game) to another equally quilled guy and just keep him in the same
province with the regular governor? I currently own Sweden, Flanders,
Venice, Tripoli, and Antioch so it will be a difficult choice in which to place
him

.

**EatYerGreens** · 08-26-2005, 10:10

Hi Fred,

My thinking is that the Chancellery title has an empire-wide effect, much like the king's acumen does, so it does [EDIT: doesn't (gah!)] matter where he ends up residing.

I didn't check for changes when I did it in my campaign, so I can't say for sure how much percentage boost it gives.

Personally, I'd give it to my best acumen gov, assuming he hasn't got two titles already.

Nothing wrong in giving it to a gov with no title yet.

My only concern about roving/static governors is what would happen if I stuffed up, lost a battle and they got captured. I'd expect the ransom to be correspondingly steep. A bit like losing a prince, say.

I'd feel obliged to pay too, if it was a particularly good gov or worse, several of them.

Suffice to say that, conservative player as I am, I keep them off the front line and, time/training slots permitting, they get retrained with my top quality of armour plus church etc morale boosts.

**Ludens** · 08-28-2005, 15:37

The effects of acumen differ for governors and kings. A province will see a 10% increase in income for every quill the governor has, and a kingdom will see a 2% increase in income for every quill the King has. The acumen of princes has no effect. You can find this in the numerology thread.

The Chanchelor's acumen has, BTW, no effect on the income of the state either, only the King's has. When I first played the game I thought the chanchelor managed the state finances as well, but it appears this is not the case. The poor king has to do it all.

**EatYerGreens** · 08-28-2005, 18:16

Thanks for the clarification, Ludens.

Originally Posted by Ludens

You can find this in the numerology thread.

Well, if it was actually entitled 'numerology', I wouldn't have stopped to look at it, mistaking it for off-topic chat about the flakey mumbo-jumbo of the same name, or arguments over same.

@ichi,

glad you pointed that out. Thanks also.

**Ludens** · 08-29-2005, 15:03

Originally Posted by EatYerGreens

Well, if it was actually entitled 'numerology', I wouldn't have stopped to look at it, mistaking it for off-topic chat about the flakey mumbo-jumbo of the same name, or arguments over same.

The thread is pinned over at the .com forums, so it is hard to miss, but I should have told you were to find it. It contains a wealth of information about M:TW.

**ichi** · 08-28-2005, 17:28

Originally Posted by dgfred

Would it have the same effect to just give the Chancellery title (or Worms in my HRE game) to another equally quilled guy and just keep him in the same
province with the regular governor? . . .

No, if you gave the title to a general who isnt a guv then you won't get any benefit.

For the Catholic factions, there are usually three titles that give acumen, the Lord Chamberlain, Chancellor/Keeper of the Privy Seal, and Archbishop.

ichi

**dgfred** · 08-29-2005, 15:59

Originally Posted by ichi

No, if you gave the title to a general who isnt a guv then you won't get any benefit.

For the Catholic factions, there are usually three titles that give acumen, the Lord Chamberlain, Chancellor/Keeper of the Privy Seal, and Archbishop.

ichi

Why wouldn't you get 'any' benefit? Don't those titles help loyalty at
least?