State you case on the War (read top post first)

[Divinus Arma]

We have done the war argument for some time now, and gone back and forth every which way.

Here is the purpose of this thread:

State your full position on the Global War on Terrorism, and provide facts to support your conclusions.

For example: If you think Iraq campaign was a detour but the war is just, say why. If you think Bush lied, provide proof. If you think the Iraq campaign was justified, state facts showing why.

Also, do not respond to others and start an argument yet. Just post your position and supporting facts please.

I want to hear from a variety of people and get facts.

I look forward to hearing from you all ,

DA

[King Ragnar]

Helping the Americans invade Iraq was a very bad decision, we are sticking our noses in other peoples buisness, if we hadnt inavded Iraq then im very sure the Londom Bombings would never of happened.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

State your full position on the Global War on Terrorism, and provide facts to support your conclusions.

Well think were still fighting it half assed. We support terrorists in Kosovo while attacking them eslewhere. If this is really a world war then treat it as such. Also in Iraq I wuld try to seal off the borders and send in more troops not pull any out. We have to show these people we mean bussiness. If they have bases in Syria hit them.

I was against the invassion of Iraq because I was afraid of exactly whats happening. However once we committed troops its our duty to support them. We certainly cannot cut and run at this point. If it wasnt at the start , the war in Iraq now certainly is about fighting terrorism.

[yesdachi]

Interesting idea for a thread, good luck. I have already mentioned my thoughts in the other thread https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...1&postcount=45 and the fun for me in the forums is to discuss, not fact find (its just too hard as many things are seen on TV and heard form individuals or classified) and then split hairs on the facts or decide who has the biggest facts or who’s facts can pee further. I look forward to reading the posts but because I am not willing to fulfill the criteria I will not participate .

[Kaiser of Arabia]

The war in Iraq, and against Terrorism, is as justified as the Declaration of War against Japan on December 8th, 1941. We were attacked, on American soil, by Islamic Fundementalists who's only intention was to end American lives in a fit of rage, for no reason other than we are, and always have been, a Christian nation. Thousands of Americans perished in the assaults that day, the worst attack on American civilians in the history of America. When the attack on Americans happened on December 7th, 1941, we went to war to punish the agressors, and we have done so with the war on Terrorism.
We are fighting it in the wrong way, as Gawain said. We still support Terrorists in the Balkans, who fight against the government of Serbia, who could have aided us in fighting Terrorism in the balkans. We still support the Pakistani and Saudi Governments, who harbor and support Terrorists. We haven't questioned France on how they allowed Osama Bin Laden to get his kidney transplant there. Nor have we helped Russia deal with the terrorist stronghold of Chechnya, or the Indonesian government deal with the terrorism there. We haven't taken out Syria, who have opressed the Lebonese people and harbor Terrorists and Insurgents. Nor have we devoted enough men to our commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan.
While I disagree with the way the war is being carried out (our new military strategy that does not call for Total War [no pun intended] is obviously a massive failure), I do support it's cause and I do beleive it was the right response to the murder of thousands of Americans on September 11th. Too bad the Clinton Administration didn't have the courage to deal with it after the Embassy Bombings and the attack on the USS Cole.

[Adrian II]

We haven't questioned France on how they allowed Osama Bin Laden to get his kidney transplant there.

Oh I love that one. Can you give any indication as to where this story comes from? And when is the transplant supposed to have happened?

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Oh I love that one. Can you give any indication as to where this story comes from? And when is the transplant supposed to have happened?

I was in an argument with a liberal and they screamed it. It goes against the #1 rule of the extreme left (never insult france) soI figured it was true

[Leodegar]

Define, who is a terrorist.

[Meneldil]

I was in an argument with a liberal and they screamed it. It goes against the #1 rule of the extreme left (never insult france) soI figured it was true

Funny, a lot of people in France said that Osama often had chirugical (is it a word ?) operations in the US, that he was in good relation with some high ranked member of the CIA, etc.

People are often dumb when they claim things while they have no clues...

He who makes attacks against the US. You can make the exact same attacks against someone else, but if it isn't against US interests than it isn't against the US (Osama in Afghanistan against the Russians, for example). And, of course, anyone who disagrees with Bush's foreign policy must be a terrorist sympathizer.

We've already got the mentality for a police state, people.. It would not surprise me to see that mentality become law within my life time.

Don't forget socialists. They are obviously terrorists. Non-christian people are also weird, and thus, shouldn't be trusted and are likely terrorists.