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    Default Doctor in Trouble for Telling Woman She's Obese

    This is just priceless....

    Doctor in trouble for calling patient obese
    “I told a fat woman she was obese,” Bennett says. “I tried to get her attention. I told her, 'You need to get on a program, join a group of like-minded people and peel off the weight that is going to kill you.'"
    So now doctor's can't recommend what he views as proper treatment to a patient.... cuz it might be offensive. I wonder if smokers who are told to quit will be able to file complaints as well?
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    Your sig quote is rather apt for this thread.

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    Actually, it wasn't just that he told her she was obese. I saw him in an interview on CNN. He also told her that she would be better able to attract men if she weren't obese. True or not, WTF? Now, I don't know about you; but I'd be a little upset too if a doctor started giving me relationship advice for which he has absolutely no qualifications. Obesity is within his purview, but advising her on how to attract men? That's for the local hairdresser or the gay guy at the jewelry store, isn't it? This guy really did say this with a straight face and went on to try and explain himself by saying that it was true statistically, except for a certain small percentage of chubby-chasers, etc. What the hell does it matter if it's true statistically or not? He's a physician not Miss Manners. At that point, I realized that the story wasn't as cut and dried as the media was making it out to be. Both the doctor and the patient are whack jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    Now, I don't know about you; but I'd be a little upset too if a doctor started giving me relationship advice for which he has absolutely no qualifications. Obesity is within his purview, but advising her on how to attract men? That's for the local hairdresser or the gay guy at the jewelry store, isn't it?
    Hairdressers have qualifications on attracting men? That's news to me. There are many drawbacks for obesity, attractiveness is one- along with many other assorted health problems. Again, if a doctor told you that smoking cigarrettes makes you smell bad and gives you wrinkles in addition to other health problems, would you be justified in filing a complaint?
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    Uhm, the social stigma associated with obesity can and often directly leads to self-esteem issues that can manifest in other diagnoses (re, depression). If she'd like to prevent herself from years of prozac and stress management groups, having a healthy social life is key.

    Of course, if bacon-wrapped sausages are more important to her than leading a healthy social and sex life, we'll that's her. But it certainly is not out of line for him to bring it up, as long as tact is applied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    Uhm, the social stigma associated with obesity can and often directly leads to self-esteem issues that can manifest in other diagnoses (re, depression). If she'd like to prevent herself from years of prozac and stress management groups, having a healthy social life is key.

    Of course, if bacon-wrapped sausages are more important to her than leading a healthy social and sex life, we'll that's her. But it certainly is not out of line for him to bring it up, as long as tact is applied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    I'd be a little upset too if a doctor started giving me relationship advice for which he has absolutely no qualifications.
    Maybe he does have the qualifications?!?
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    Heh, if my doctor said that smoking made me smell bad and gave me wrinkles, fine. If, on the other hand he suggested that by giving up smoking then I'd pick up more hot chicks, then I'd have a problem with his professionalism.

    Again, I'm not defending the fat lady in this story. But the doctor isn't the knight in shining white armor as he's being protrayed. I watched this guy give an interview, and seriously - he's a whack job. Reminded me of Kevourkian, actually.
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    Of course, if bacon-wrapped sausages are more important to her than leading a healthy social and sex life, we'll that's her. But it certainly is not out of line for him to bring it up, as long as tact is applied.
    Yes, because fat people never have friends or sex and they all eat bacon wrapped sausages. This comment shows why the doctor needed to be more sensitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    Again, I'm not defending the fat lady in this story. But the doctor isn't the knight in shining white armor as he's being protrayed. I watched this guy give an interview, and seriously - he's a whack job. Reminded me of Kevourkian, actually.
    Yeah, I suspect the article was at least a little one-sided to try and provoke outrage- it's good for ratings afterall. Nonetheless, I still think it absurd to file a complaint and try to get him sanctioned.

    Even if he was less than diplomatic about it- so what? You know what I do if I think my doctor has poor bedside manner or is rude? I find a new doctor. It's not like he misdiagnosed her or something. The charge is, basically, that he was rude- I don't think that's something that you suspend someone's medical license for.

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    Yes, because fat people never have friends or sex and they all eat bacon wrapped sausages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    Actually, it wasn't just that he told her she was obese. I saw him in an interview on CNN. He also told her that she would be better able to attract men if she weren't obese. True or not, WTF? Now, I don't know about you; but I'd be a little upset too if a doctor started giving me relationship advice for which he has absolutely no qualifications. Obesity is within his purview, but advising her on how to attract men? That's for the local hairdresser or the gay guy at the jewelry store, isn't it? This guy really did say this with a straight face and went on to try and explain himself by saying that it was true statistically, except for a certain small percentage of chubby-chasers, etc. What the hell does it matter if it's true statistically or not? He's a physician not Miss Manners. At that point, I realized that the story wasn't as cut and dried as the media was making it out to be. Both the doctor and the patient are whack jobs.
    Actually fertility is a health issue. Attractiveness is linked with fertility. Obesity reduces fertility. Fertility is a good measure of overall health as it is one of the first things to drop (for a guy your meatwad is the miners canary... it drops as your cardiovascular system starts to fail).

    Obesity is linked with self esteem and other mental issues.

    Obesity can be the result of genetic disorders as well.

    So looking at an obese person they are less fertile hence the brain processes that as less attractive.

    Also looking at an obese person the brain processes 'they have social and mental issues' if they can't look after themselves they can't look after me and offspring. So they are seen as less attractive again.

    If the problem is a genetic disorder, well this is an even better reason the brain will avoid the mate.

    However some people will find opposites attractive, and combination of really different genes can be ultimately more healthy offspring.

    I think it is a pathetic (as in pathos sad) society that cannot call a spade a spade. She is obese, her life span will be shorter, she is less fertile, probably has either mental disorders, lack of willpower or planning skills, or a medical problem causing her to be fat, overall she is not a good choice as a mate.

    Oh and smoking is bad for the pecker too... it is a cardiovascular inhibitor, causes the pump that pumps the pecker to have less horsepower, causes the pecker to become impotent and also causes the pecker to become shorter due to carpillary damage... given the popularity of viagra I doubt these results are attractive to the opposite sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Adults take responsibility for their actions and clean up their own mess.
    If only that would actually happen sometime!

    Fat chicks need love too right?

    They've just got to pay!

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    Ok, let me try one more time to make my point clear here; before I give up.

    I'm not defending her for filing a complaint for his discussing her obesity.

    I'm not saying that obesity doesn't affect physical attraction.

    I'm saying that the way in which he discussed the physical attraction aspect with her was unprofessional. Rather extremely so. I listened to the man in his own words when he was asked it it was true that he had brought up attracting men. His answer was affirmative. But the way he explained it was not as you have Papewaio, his attitude was really much closer to "look, if you're fat, you won't get laid!" I'm serious. He had all the bed side manner of an oncologist walking in to tell a terminal patient the bad news and just saying, "Hey, guess what? You're going to die. Oh, look at the time. Gotta run!"

    Do you see the point that I'm trying to make here? The news stories are painting this guy as some kind of saint, and he ain't. His approach unprofessional. I'm not concerned with the merits of her filing a complaint. I'm just saying this story has a hidden side to it which might explain why she filed the complaint rather than just going to find a doctor with whom she was more comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    Fertility is a good measure of overall health as it is one of the first things to drop (for a guy your meatwad is the miners canary... it drops as your cardiovascular system starts to fail).
    Thank God, I'm going to live forever!

    On the other hand, is anybody else concerned about those commercials for ED drugs that warn: "in the rare event of an [period of inflation] lasting more than 4 hours (priapism), seek immediate medical attention to avoid long-term injury."

    Injury to whom???


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    So in USA you can actually sue anybody for anything? .

    At least i can breath safely here.
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