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    Default Re : Was WW2 in Europe Justified?

    The Versailles treaty was revised about 5 times between 1918 and 1938, and each times, France, Belgium and UK agreed to stop pillaging Germany's economy. It did not prevent Hitler from claiming that the Allies (obviously led by the Jews) were responsible for germany economical and political situation.
    Furthermore, the idea of cancelling the treaty has been proposed by people like Aristide Briand before 1933.


    the Western Allies were very hesitant to enter into a military alliance with the Communist USSR
    Wrong, France and UK were looking for an alliance with USSR long before the war.

    Was the treatment of the German nation after WW1 justified? No
    So was the treatement of France in 1871. So was the treatement of Germany and Japan in 1945.

    Some historians, revisionist in my opinion, have pushed the idea that Germany was looking for a fight.
    Errr, in 1914, France and Germany *were* looking for a fight, just as Russia and Austria were looking for a fight. The 2 countries hated eachother faithfully, and full scale war would have started at some point. France was looking for a revenge after 1871, and Germany was willing to crush one of its biggest rival.

    On another note, France and Germany tried to set more friendly relations before Hitler took the power.
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    Wrong, France and UK were looking for an alliance with USSR long before the war.
    Read up on the Winter War. France and the UK were making plans to fight against the USSR, even after the 2nd World War had begun. The British and French Governments did not trust the socialist USSR, especially after the Nazi-Soviet Pact.
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    You could say one good thing happened because of WW2....the London Slums were cleared, ergo the war is justified :)
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    Default Re : Re: Was WW2 in Europe Justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Khalifah
    Read up on the Winter War. France and the UK were making plans to fight against the USSR, even after the 2nd World War had begun. The British and French Governments did not trust the socialist USSR, especially after the Nazi-Soviet Pact.

    Huh, I know the Brits and the French made some attempts to attack USSR : the French planned to attack the petrol industry in the Caucasus from their Syrian airports, and both country planned to send divisions into Finland.

    That doesn't change the fact that the allies have been trying to set up an alliance with Stalin way before 1939. The alliance did not come to a term mostly because Stalin wanted his troops to be allowed to cross Poland in case of a war against Germany (which the Allies refused, for obvious reasons).
    But when the germano-soviet treaty was signed, they had to quickly make up some plans, in case they would have to fight against USSR.

    And overall, I agree with Kafir. The war was needed only because it allowed to get ride of some of the most dangerous regimes that ever existed, and brought peace into Europe (in fact, I think Germany and Italy should have been hammered as soon as Hitler/Mussolini came to power).
    Using the Treaty of Versailles as an apology for Germany policy is totaly rubbish.
    Last edited by Meneldil; 08-27-2005 at 09:49.

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