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    I didn't know if I should post this in the monastery or here but I thought it was intresing although you guys have probaly heard it before

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    The Boys of Iwo Jima
    (From the book: Heart Touchers "Life-Changing Stories of Faith, Love, and Laughter)

    by Michael T. Powers
    on the net

    Each year my video production company is hired to go to Washington, D.C. with the eighth grade class from Clinton, Wisconsin where I grew up, to videotape their trip. I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially memorable.

    On the last night of our trip, we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial. This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts one of the most famous photographs in history-that of the six brave men raising the American flag at the top of Mount Surabachi on the Island of Iwo Jima, Japan during WW II. Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and headed towards the memorial. I noticed a solitary figure at the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, "What's your name and where are you guys from?

    I told him that my name was Michael Powers and that we were from Clinton, Wisconsin.

    "Hey, I'm a Cheesehead, too! Come gather around Cheeseheads, and I will tell you a story."

    James Bradley just happened to be in Washington, D.C. to speak at the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say good-night to his dad, who had previously passed away, but whose image is part of the statue. He was just about to leave when he saw the buses pull up. I videotaped him as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he said from my videotape. It is one thing to tour the incredible monuments filled with history in Washington, D.C. but it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received that night. When all had gathered around he reverently began to speak. Here are his words from that night:

    "My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin. My dad is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called Flags of Our Fathers which is #5 on the New York Times Best Seller list right now. It is the story of the six boys you see behind me. Six boys raised the flag. The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player. He enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. They were off to play another type of game, a game called "War." But it didn't turn out to be a game. Harlon, at the age of twenty-one, died with his intestines in his hands. I don't say that to gross you out; I say that because there are generals who stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen years old.

    (He pointed to the statue)

    You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire. If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken, and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a photograph. A photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in there for protection, because he was scared. He was eighteen years old. Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima. Boys. Not old men.

    The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They called him the "old man" because he was so old. He was already twenty-four. When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't say, "Let's go kill the enemy" or "Let's die for our country." He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, "You do what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers."

    The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona. Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima. He went into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, "You're a hero." He told reporters, "How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only twenty-seven of us walked off alive?"

    So you take your class at school. 250 of you spending a year together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the beach, but only twenty-seven of your classmates walk off alive. That was Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes died dead drunk, face down at the age of thirty-two, ten years after this picture was taken.

    The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from Hilltop, Kentucky, a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. His best friend, who is now 70, told me, "Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epson salts. Those cows crapped all night."

    Yes, he was a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of nineteen. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store. A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and into the morning. The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away.

    The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue, is my dad, John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin, where I was raised. My dad lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, we were trained as little kids to say, "No, I'm sorry sir, my dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone there, sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back."

    My dad never fished or even went to Canada. Usually he was sitting right there at the table eating his Campbell's soup, but we had to tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press. You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and a monument. My dad knew better. He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died, and when boys died in Iwo Jima, they writhed and screamed in pain.

    When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me and said, "I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. DID NOT come back."

    So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo Jima, and three came back as national heroes. Overall, 7000 boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank you for your time."

    Suddenly the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a flag sticking out of the top. It came to life before our eyes with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a hero. Maybe not a hero in his own eyes, but a hero nonetheless.

    Copyright © 2000 by Michael T. Powers
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    Very good. Thank you for sharing that.
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    Thanks for posting that sfts.
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    Damn that was a moving story...thank you for sharing that with us
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    Thanks for sharing it.

    Touching.
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    I'd be interested to see that video, but I doubt it'll ever be aired on the BBC. Thanks for sharing that powerful tale SFTS.
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    very good and moving story, I appreciate it

    one question, why did the US sent 'boys' to Iwo Jima? Didnt it have well trained soldiers and some veterans? Was it pressed for manpower? just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjakihata
    very good and moving story, I appreciate it
    Except that it does not seem to be true. The symbolism of the statue stands, though. Here is more on the background: http://hnn.us/articles/599.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianII
    Except that it does not seem to be true. The symbolism of the statue stands, though. Here is more on the background: http://hnn.us/articles/599.html
    Reallly sniopes said it was although the man was probaly reefering to the men at iwo jima not the photo itself
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianII
    Except that it does not seem to be true. The symbolism of the statue stands, though. Here is more on the background: http://hnn.us/articles/599.html
    I'd beleive the son of someone who had first hand accounts rather than a newsource. We all know how incredebly BS-prone news is.
    Thanks for sharing SFTS, a very moving story. I thought I posed earlier, but I guess flood control kicked in

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    That was a really good story. Thanks for sharing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sjakihata
    one question, why did the US sent 'boys' to Iwo Jima? Didnt it have well trained soldiers and some veterans? Was it pressed for manpower? just curious.
    Because our marines were made almost entirely of boys, not to mention the Army. The US had very few standing armed forces at the time, with the exception of the ever-demanding navy, and the last war the US had been engaged in was the first World War, so all the veterans would have been in their late 30's at the earliest. Just about the only people in the military who weren't boys were in the officer staff, so all we had to send were boys. All things considered, they fought very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    I'd beleive the son of someone who had first hand accounts rather than a newsource. We all know how incredebly BS-prone news is.
    Thanks for sharing SFTS, a very moving story. I thought I posed earlier, but I guess flood control kicked in
    Are you saying you would rather believe myth than fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia
    I'd beleive the son of someone who had first hand accounts rather than a newsource. We all know how incredebly BS-prone news is.
    And we all know how war propaganda can distort facts. In case you didn't read a single syllable of the article I linked to, here is what the historians had to say on the basis of their interviews, not with the children of the men who served on Iwo Jima, but with the actual Iwo Jima veterans themselves:

    We ended with the somber memories of the men who fought the battle and their poignant reflections on the tragedy of war. Why did this matter? The truth was important to the men who were there, many of whom complained to us that their deeds had been revised for the sake of public relations. In a larger sense, it was values such as truth and justice for which World War II was fought, not half-truths and orchestrated sentiment.
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