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    "'elp! I'm bein' repressed!" Senior Member Aenlic's Avatar
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    You can find lots of information on the internet about the 7 nations if you spell it Hodenosaunee.
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    Thanks Aenlic. Is this how you English speaking people spell it?Because i took my spelling from Finish written page.And what is the seventh Nation?
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    kagemusha, 500 Nations, An Illustrated History of North American Indians is written by Alvin M. Josephy, Jr. I got it for a general overview of indian history and a stepping stone to indentifying specific parts of their history that I would find interesting. Then I could locate more detailed books covering those areas of interest. The other attractive thing about the book is that it was on the bargain shelf at a local bookstore.

    Here's a link to the book at Amazon.com for more information on it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    Thanks Aenlic. Is this how you English speaking people spell it?Because i took my spelling from Finish written page.And what is the seventh Nation?
    It's the Anglicized version of the word. I believe the word is originally an Onondaga word which as someone pointed out means "People Building a Long House" ; but the languages of the various tribes are really all just dialects of the same root language. As for the 7 nations, I meant 6. It's a typo that I missed. Ignore it. They were originally the 5 nations of the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, and Senecas with the later addition of the Tuscarora.

    There are some alternate spellings of Hodenosaunee. You'll see it sometimes spelled as Haudenosaunee and Hodeneshonee. But I'm reasonably certain that the main line spelling is Hodenosaunee or Haudenosaunee.

    Some scholars have dated the advent of the 5 Nations to the 12th century, giving a date of 1142 as the year in which the Seneca were the last tribe to adopt the treaty. That would make the 5 Nations (and later the 6) the oldest existing democracy in the world, far outstripping the U.S. for the record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    Thanks Aenlic. Is this how you English speaking people spell it?Because i took my spelling from Finish written page.And what is the seventh Nation?
    Heh... When I muttered that word to myself it actually did sound rather Finish.
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    Thanks for the info Gregoshi. Kraxis did you think of word Sauna from Haudenosaunee?Btw Aenlic we Finns also "Finnosize" words.In my language you and Gregoshi would live in Yhdysvallat and Kraxis if i remember right is Danish so he lives in Tanska.
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    I don't know what kind of cable TV access you have in Helsinki, Kagemushua; but if you get the History Channel or History International, then the series 500 Nations based upon that book which Gregoshi mentioned is shown regularly. You might even be able to order it via the History Channel web site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    I don't know what kind of cable TV access you have in Helsinki, Kagemushua; but if you get the History Channel or History International, then the series 500 Nations based upon that book which Gregoshi mentioned is shown regularly. You might even be able to order it via the History Channel web site.
    I only have Discovery Chanel,but i think im going to get that book.
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    I am not aware of anything as interesting as the “counting coup” game that the plains tribes practiced but I found this site a while ago http://muse.jhu.edu/demo/ethnohistor...6.4keener.html its a bit dry but offers some interesting info.
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