View Poll Results: Greatest Military Nation of all Time 2 (and final)

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  • Romans

    11 23.40%
  • Greeks

    4 8.51%
  • French

    1 2.13%
  • Mongols

    12 25.53%
  • Scots

    0 0%
  • Germans

    2 4.26%
  • Prussians

    3 6.38%
  • Turks

    3 6.38%
  • British

    7 14.89%
  • USA

    4 8.51%
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    Feeding the Peanut Gallery Senior Member Redleg's Avatar
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    Really its simple - the United States or Britian.

    What other nations on that list can or could project its military power anywhere in the world where it desires to do so?
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    U.s.a
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    What other nations on that list can or could project its military power anywhere in the world where it desires to do so?
    Questions that have reliable basis are considered to be worth answering..

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    France, Russia, probably China...
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    France,
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    Questions that have reliable basis are considered to be worth answering..
    LOL - that is a none answer. The poll is what is the greatest military nation. THe question of

    What other nations on that list can or could project its military power anywhere in the world where it desires to do so?

    fits perfectly into the question. Because it goes to address on of the issues that actually makes for a great military nation. The projection of military power anywhere that nation wishes or desires to do so.

    All Military nations must project their power - in order to be defined as great.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Romans did not have zeppelins to land in China, though they may have desired to do that..

    "Sticking your nose wherever you want to int the world" may be partailly a criteria of greatness, but leading all to it is just trying to prove your nation is militaristically the best. (Though you should accept that it is not..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    Romans did not have zeppelins to land in China, though they may have desired to do that..
    The great military nations all projected power to where they wanted to. However once again you based your initial response to the question on something else now didn't you?

    "Sticking your nose wherever you want to int the world" may be partailly a criteria of greatness, but leading all to it is just trying to prove your nation is militaristically the best. (Though you should accept that it is not..)
    Your bringing your politics into the equation - the statment again is simple. Not a leading one at all. One can also use Britian as an examble of a great military power based upon the fact that Britian has been projecting its military power across the globe longer then the United States. It was not until the 1940's after WW2 that the United States surpassed Britian in this regards.

    What other nations on that list can or could project its military power anywhere in the world where it desires to do so?

    Take a look at every great military nation that has ever been - what is the one thing that they all have in common? The answer is really simple - especially since the answer is in the question above. Power Project when and where the nation desires.

    Again one can look at Rome in the same light and use that power projection based upon the world as Rome knew it to call Rome a great military power. In fact if my memory serves me correctly - that is exactly how some Historians have analysised Roman Military might.

    Maybe you need to accept the simple fact that the United States has a great military might and fits within the defination of a military nation. Unless one wants to use a different criteria to develop the question.

    For instance what constitutes a military nation. A nation where the percentage of population in the military is 10% or greater. A nation where the percentage of population is 5%. A nation where the percentage of population in the military is less then 1%.

    The United States accomplishes its military strenght with less then 1% of its population in the military.

    Should we base it upon what percent of the GNP is used to build, maintain and equip the military of the nation. Again you will find the United States one of the more efficient in that regards.

    Don't let your baised opinion interfer with my rational for my baised opinion. Critize my answers in a historical context - because there are a few weakness in my rational - but if your going to take little pot shots like this little statement
    Quote Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
    "Sticking your nose wherever you want to int the world" may be partailly a criteria of greatness, but leading all to it is just trying to prove your nation is militaristically the best. (Though you should accept that it is not..)
    your going to have to do better then that - it show a fundmental weakness in your ability to understand military history - and your desire to just be against anything or anyone that states the United States is good or great at something.
    Last edited by Redleg; 09-04-2005 at 03:12.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Default Re: Greatest Military Nation of All Time 2

    To add to the grey (gray? greay?) areas, most of those nations haven't remained consistant militarily. At what time period(s) should we judge Rome? China? The USA?

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