Quote Originally Posted by Red Harvest
No, more the fault of his misguided followers who voted for him. I pointed out the mess he created with his snubbing of Kyoto. Cry foul if you like, but I did my part to get it right, and still am.
Crying foul by pointing out President Bush errors about not signing the Kyoto treaty is ignoring about 100 years of past adminstrations not worrying about the environment at all.


It is the president's job to try to lead the country down the CORRECT path, instead of off into the ditch. The anti-Kyoto crowd is typical of his short sighted support. What he and you are doing is DAMAGING to our economy and jobs.
Well show me where the Kyoto Treaty is the correct path - which I don't believe it is when it completely disregards half of the world, it ignores the slash and burn deforestation of the Rain Forests, and many other issues that are not fixing the environment. What the Kyoto does is attempt to halt the already developed countries increase in emmissions - but does nothing to give get developing countries into developing sound environment policies either. The United States can do more to control or emmissions but signing the Kyoto Treaty is just giving a pass to countries that also need to control their emmissions and stop the massive deforestation of the Rain Forests.

Short term thinking usually is, and you guys represent that in all its glory. I don't even believe Kyoto would have even weakened us short term and certainly not long term. It would sure as heck be a lot cheaper than many things we are doing to support our guzzle-it-up approach. I do believe oil would be cheaper today for one, and tomorrow, and next week, and next year, and 10 years from now.
Yes indeed and that is all the Kyoto Treaty is a short term approach on the problem, not a long term fix.

Why should the rest of the world be mad? It effects all of them when Dubya and his supporters decide to think selfish short term. It is rather hypocritical to be calling for international efforts in one area and ignoring them in another.
Yes it is - especially given the way many European Countries also show their hypocrisy on the issue.