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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic
    I never thought about it until now but you could theoretically marry into a faction with no heirs then assassinate the king and inherit the land.
    Guys, thanks for all the replies!

    how can you check if the other kings have no heirs?

    anyway, no, I wasnt allied with anybody!! I'm Byzantine, and currently the most powerful army on the board. So now apparently EVERY single faction is against me!! Again, is it something I'm doing wrong or does that happen normally??

    p.s. I play normal level

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilman74
    Guys, thanks for all the replies!

    how can you check if the other kings have no heirs?
    Make Emmisaries, Spies, Assassins, etc., place them in their provinces and look through their stacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilman74
    anyway, no, I wasnt allied with anybody!! I'm Byzantine, and currently the most powerful army on the board. So now apparently EVERY single faction is against me!! Again, is it something I'm doing wrong or does that happen normally??

    p.s. I play normal level

    Yes, it's a normal phenomenon. Once you reach a certain size in Medieval, everyone else will turn on you. So no, you're not doing anything wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilman74
    Guys, thanks for all the replies!

    how can you check if the other kings have no heirs?

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    Easy: Drag one of your assassins over the desired king. If the message where you can choose yes/no says that a heir will take over then there is at least one heir; if it says there is no heir: that's your lucky day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bretwalda
    Easy: Drag one of your assassins over the desired king. If the message where you can choose yes/no says that a heir will take over then there is at least one heir; if it says there is no heir: that's your lucky day...
    What a great way to check if there are heirs!

    As for your Q about what level I play, always expert, unless I am trying something new.
    (The way I figure it, I have ruled thru hundreds of kings if I am not at expert level yet then I shouldn’t be playing. Some days I shouldn’t be playing .)
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    I have another idea about the thread starter's issue.

    Do blood links between empires last even when the alliance is broken? Not neccissarily to war, but neutral? Perhaps some people he married into in the past cancelled alliances over something but the link remained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesdachi
    What a great way to check if there are heirs!

    As for your Q about what level I play, always expert, unless I am trying something new.
    (The way I figure it, I have ruled thru hundreds of kings if I am not at expert level yet then I shouldn’t be playing. Some days I shouldn’t be playing .)
    Yes it is a nice check!

    I also play expert, and I am also continually suprised by the game



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    Quote Originally Posted by dgfred
    I also play expert, and I am also continually suprised by the game



    and pissed off , not really.... just .

    I take it the AI has kicked your butt a few times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martok
    I take it the AI has kicked your butt a few times?

    The really big surprises: massive early civil/rebel wars, a couple of viking
    units slaughtering an army three times its size, GA points not working for
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgfred
    The really big surprises: massive early civil/rebel wars, a couple of viking
    units slaughtering an army three times its size, GA points not working for
    Crusades, stuff like that= I started over . And many games
    I have auto-loaded after a major boo-boo or Crusade pt testing .

    Out of curioisity, what faction are/were you playing as? (I'm guessing the Germans, since they can crusade and are one of the factions most likely to run into Vikings early on.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilman74
    Guys, thanks for all the replies!

    how can you check if the other kings have no heirs?

    anyway, no, I wasnt allied with anybody!! I'm Byzantine, and currently the most powerful army on the board. So now apparently EVERY single faction is against me!! Again, is it something I'm doing wrong or does that happen normally??

    p.s. I play normal level
    Yes, its normal, but is very much tied to your style of play.

    JFYI, this is a trigger that CA put into the game to slow down the Warmongers. A player with fairly good battle skills (or, is good at exploiting the game) can consquer the board fairly quicking with an overly agressive approach. Without developing an Economy and fully utilizing all the features of the game.

    So, the more aggressive/warmongering approach you take, the quicker and more severely you'll suffer the "they all turned against me" syndrome.

    A slower, less agressive approach lessens this effect. CA wants you to play the game the way it was intended.

    Back in the day, there was much discussion and claims as to how quickly the game could be beat. One jerk popped up claiming he could beat the game in 50 Turns!! I made it my duty to expose his lies, proving it was impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToranagaSama
    Back in the day, there was much discussion and claims as to how quickly the game could be beat. One jerk popped up claiming he could beat the game in 50 Turns!! I made it my duty to expose his lies, proving it was impossible.

    50 turns??! Hell, it takes me at least 150 years to conquer the map--and that's only if I go at a breakneck pace, which I'm not comfortable doing. (I usually turtle in most strategy games.) I'm glad you shredded his story.
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