Made-in-Israel Paper Cups Used in Saudi Hospital

[Adrian II]

what are you talking about adrian? where in this thread did anyone make an 'excuse' for saudi 'backwardness'?

Excuse me? A fine example would be Goofball's remark that Canada and the U.S. have dress codes similar to that of Saudi Arabia. You seem to read only innucuous comments where in fact people are making lame excuses for what is a horrible regime. Faisal excluded, as usual. I bow to his superior knowledge.

[Big_John]

Excuse me? A fine example would be Goofball's remark that Canada and the U.S. have dress codes similar to that of Saudi Arabia. You seem to read only innucuous comments where in fact people are making lame excuses for what is a horrible regime. Faisal excluded, as usual. I bow to his superior knowledge.

so you just ignore statements like these?

Again, I am not trying to hold the Saudis up as paragons of female empowerment

At any rate, you're missing my point. Women in Saudi Arabia are definitely not treated as equals

the remark about nudity was in response to the curious line (of yours i guess?) that "saudi dress codes forbid any display of nudity". maybe that was a joke? maybe you didn't mean "nudity", but "skin"? in any case, instead of assuming that goofball is equating cut-offs and halter-tops with full-veiled abayas, why not give him the benefit of context?

maybe i'm being naive, but i yet see no reason to read goofball's words anything like what you want to see in them. you should no as well as anyone that reading motivations and mind-sets into 100-word forum posts isn't necessarily straight-forward.

[bmolsson]

Just a small note, in Islam, men are not to be nude as well. Really conservative muslims have beard and will never expose legs and arms. It's also custom to wear something on your head.

I believe that the dress code issue is a bit blown out of proportion here. We have to remember that a woman is not allowed top less in the middle of New York, while a man is free to be dressed that way......