Why crusade???

**English assassin** · 09-02-2005, 13:57

Plus its something a bit different to do when you are bored. Wandering about other peoples empires depleting their troops is quite fun. The only thing is crusades lose troops so fast you want a sea route to your target and a "real" army actually to do the fighting when it gets there.

Is that cheesey? I guess so.

**Varangian Berserker** · 09-04-2005, 06:21

Can Denmark Crusade? I wouldn't mind doing a Crusade against their traditional target of choice-Eastern Europe/Russia!

**Martok** · 09-04-2005, 07:54

Originally Posted by Varangian Beserker

Can Denmark Crusade? I wouldn't mind doing a Crusade against their traditional target of choice-Eastern Europe/Russia!

Unfortunately, no they can't. They're one of 3 catholic factions (along with the Polish and Hungarians) who cannot crusade. I believe, however, that at least one of the fine fellows here at the Org created a mod that allows all catholic factions to crusade. For the life of me, though, I can't remember who it was. (I want to say Zarax, but that doesn't sound quite right.)

**bretwalda** · 09-04-2005, 11:57

Originally Posted by Martok

Unfortunately, no they can't. They're one of 3 catholic factions (along with the Polish and Hungarians) who cannot crusade. I believe, however, that at least one of the fine fellows here at the Org created a mod that allows all catholic factions to crusade. For the life of me, though, I can't remember who it was. (I want to say Zarax, but that doesn't sound quite right.)

It was me. (See my sig.) Version 1 does nothing but allows all catholic factions to crusade. To be able to crusade is imho both historically accurate and good gameplay-wise.

**Martok** · 09-04-2005, 17:39

Thanks bretwalda.

There you go, VB; go nuts!

**Mr White** · 09-05-2005, 11:49

if the crusade has no goal anymore, does my king lose influence?

I set up a crusade against the Italians but they have just installed a puppet pope so they won't be excommunicated anymore. No more target => no more crusade => crusade defeated?

**antisocialmunky** · 09-05-2005, 13:19

The crusade pops up in the provence of your's the crusaders are closest to.

**Deus Ex** · 09-06-2005, 17:27

Originally Posted by Mr White

if the crusade has no goal anymore, does my king lose influence?

I set up a crusade against the Italians but they have just installed a puppet pope so they won't be excommunicated anymore. No more target => no more crusade => crusade defeated?

I just had a situation similiar to this - playing sicilians/early/hard. The damn pope started a multigenernational war with me. I finally got rid of him and installed a puppet pope. Started building my crusade - when it was done building, it had to sit there UNTIL the real pope emerged, and then also until he ACCEPTED peace terms with me. Once we were no longer at war, I was able to send my crusade to Palestine (one hop - since I owned the seas).

so to answer your question - NO your crusade has not really started until the pope blesses it, and you pay for it (not the building cost, but the "donation" cost) THEN it is active.

If there is a puppet pope, or you are at war with the pope (and also if your target is allied with the pope or something like that) you can build a crusade marker - but cannot start your crusade until the REAL pope blesses it.

Hope that helps!

DE

EDIT: after I wrote this I re-read your note - you had already got the blessing of the pope and started your crusade on it's way?? Then the pope was killed? Hmmm - that's interesting. I would think they would still be a valid target for your crusade... let us know what you find out.