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    Sword-swinging maniac Member p_nutter's Avatar
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    I've just finished a campaign - Oda, starting in 1530, expert mode. There's something about the Oda starting position, which is so bad the AI routinely gets wiped out by the rebels. I did a better job :)

    20 years ago, the ruler of Owari (and only Owari) attacked the monks in Ise with everything he could spare. This year, the same man - now a R6 general and ruler of almost all of Japan - finished the job in Kaga, defeating over 1000 monks in the last and greatest battle of the campaign.

    There will be other campaigns, but none like this.

    There will be other castle assaults, but they probably won't end with SA charging down the hill into monks. (Yes, I am the attacker in this battle!)



    There will be other victories, and other defeats, but few will be as glorious as this one. (not shown here: there were more than 800 men on the other side. All enemies are dead or routed, but I lost on time limit. )


    There will be other treacherous alliance-breaking enemy daimyos, but most of them will not get the dishonourable death they deserve.


    Although outnumbered at amost every battle, the Oda clan prevailed. Monks were surrounded and routed by ashigaru. Huge rebel hordes were chased off the battlefield, and caused to disappear. Enemy capitals were invaded and pillaged - and so was ours! The invading armies of the western clans were beaten back by the victorious samurai returning from the east, and finally broken on the slopes of Shinano.

    The men of the Oda clan - from the lowly ashigarus to the mighty H2W2 cavalry archers - were the finest army I have ever commanded. They can return home to their families now, as such an army is no longer needed. Perhaps in another life I will lead them to victory again.

    PS: Thanks to Sasaki Kojiro, for this thread:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=40292, which inspired me to attack those pesky monks as early as possible.
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    Sounds like a very thrilling campaign! Congratulations on your successes too. Kudos on the very funny commentry.

    All the rebels just simply decided to go back to their farms and give you koku after you taught em who's boss

    Your Daimyo would be wise to keep your armies in good shape with periodic military exercises, maybe in the winters, just in case

    That was a very good thread. I wonder if he still plays STW once in a while. I've never won with Oda, they just have it so rough I can't seem to hack it, though I haven't tried it in a while.

    Edit: I was kinda bored tonight but now I'm going to try my hand at Oda, at normal or hard though, cus I'm a wimp and not so hard core. lol
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    I am so impressed by how he handeled the monks, with two archers, an ashigaru unit and his daimyo- to me that sounds so suicidal! Maybe I will wait a little while and hit them with a few yari samurai. Anyways, wish me luck.
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    I was kinda bored tonight but now I'm going to try my hand at Oda
    Heh, it's like a virus.

    Maybe I will wait a little while and hit them with a few yari samurai. Anyways, wish me luck.
    I don't think that's a good idea. They have a temple in Ise and will build more monks if you leave them alone. It's best to deal with them as soon as possible. And to capture the temple, so you can build your own monks. But since I'm a wimp and not hardcore (compared to some people), I invaded Ise with 3 archers, 1 yari samurais, 2 ashigarus, and the daimyo. I don't think I could win at Ise with Sasaki's army.
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    I actually just bribed them the first turn lol I did get the temple intact, which was nice.

    Here is where I got last night, sadly I didn't take the initiative to take Mino before another clan did. My major trouble is that I am allied with both Takeda and Mori.



    I really hate attacking my allies so I suppose I will need to ally with an enemy of my ally or lure one to attack me. I don't know if the TW games fits my prefered playing style, ahwell. Perhaps I should focus on economy for a little while Any suggestions?
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    The best thing you could do for your economy right now is to take Harima off Mori. Oh, and don't bother with any more border fortresses, because the upgrade costs less than a shinobi.

    You could try encouraging your allies to attack by leaving one of your provinces undefended. But none of your border provinces seem ideal for this.

    Or try the shinobi rush: build loads of shinobi, send them to an enemy province with a very small garrison. The idea is to cause a revolt, then you can take the province, since you're not allied with the rebels. Awaji looks like a good place to try this, since you'd get access to the little island to the west of it, if it worked. (Assuming Mori's not there already)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodachiSam
    I actually just bribed them the first turn lol I did get the temple intact, which was nice.

    Here is where I got last night, sadly I didn't take the initiative to take Mino before another clan did. My major trouble is that I am allied with both Takeda and Mori.

    IMG

    I really hate attacking my allies so I suppose I will need to ally with an enemy of my ally or lure one to attack me. I don't know if the TW games fits my prefered playing style, ahwell. Perhaps I should focus on economy for a little while Any suggestions?
    Bribing them might have been a very good idea. Now you have monks and no more rebels. bribing is expensive though.

    Well the alliance problem is bad. you can concentrate on your own, but then the enemy will also grow stronger. later in the game you will have several enemies, and they should better not be so good. best thing to do is to prevent them from growing strong and attack them. personally I'd prepare an attack on mino. that secures owari, your hq. I don't know about mino's economy though. harima might be good too, but takeda has some big armies and facing three enemy's can be hard. regions like totomi and shinano are useful for their honour improvements, so are good to have too. attacking mori is easy, but attacking takeda is more useful, I think. only problem is that if they're in alliance the other might turn against you too. well if you have some money build up your dojo's in yamashiro as it deliveres extra honour. some imporved farmland in owari is great for your economy.

    thanks a lot for this thread, p_nutter! fun to read, with some intresting aspects of the oda 1530 campaign. nice screens also congratulations on your victories.
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