Oda campaign

[NodachiSam]

I actually just bribed them the first turn lol I did get the temple intact, which was nice.

Here is where I got last night, sadly I didn't take the initiative to take Mino before another clan did. My major trouble is that I am allied with both Takeda and Mori.



I really hate attacking my allies so I suppose I will need to ally with an enemy of my ally or lure one to attack me. I don't know if the TW games fits my prefered playing style, ahwell. Perhaps I should focus on economy for a little while Any suggestions?

[p_nutter]

The best thing you could do for your economy right now is to take Harima off Mori. Oh, and don't bother with any more border fortresses, because the upgrade costs less than a shinobi.

You could try encouraging your allies to attack by leaving one of your provinces undefended. But none of your border provinces seem ideal for this.

Or try the shinobi rush: build loads of shinobi, send them to an enemy province with a very small garrison. The idea is to cause a revolt, then you can take the province, since you're not allied with the rebels. Awaji looks like a good place to try this, since you'd get access to the little island to the west of it, if it worked. (Assuming Mori's not there already)

[Drisos]

I actually just bribed them the first turn lol I did get the temple intact, which was nice.

Here is where I got last night, sadly I didn't take the initiative to take Mino before another clan did. My major trouble is that I am allied with both Takeda and Mori.

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I really hate attacking my allies so I suppose I will need to ally with an enemy of my ally or lure one to attack me. I don't know if the TW games fits my prefered playing style, ahwell. Perhaps I should focus on economy for a little while Any suggestions?

Bribing them might have been a very good idea. Now you have monks and no more rebels. bribing is expensive though.

Well the alliance problem is bad. you can concentrate on your own, but then the enemy will also grow stronger. later in the game you will have several enemies, and they should better not be so good. best thing to do is to prevent them from growing strong and attack them. personally I'd prepare an attack on mino. that secures owari, your hq. I don't know about mino's economy though. harima might be good too, but takeda has some big armies and facing three enemy's can be hard. regions like totomi and shinano are useful for their honour improvements, so are good to have too. attacking mori is easy, but attacking takeda is more useful, I think. only problem is that if they're in alliance the other might turn against you too. well if you have some money build up your dojo's in yamashiro as it deliveres extra honour. some imporved farmland in owari is great for your economy.

thanks a lot for this thread, p_nutter! fun to read, with some intresting aspects of the oda 1530 campaign. nice screens also congratulations on your victories.

[p_nutter]

Bribing them might have been a very good idea. Now you have monks and no more rebels. bribing is expensive though.

I'm surprised it worked...

Emissary: 2000 koku if you join our team.

Monks: We do not care for such crass worldly possessions. Ours is a spiritual life of meditation, tranquility, and tearing our enemies apart in battle. While not wearing armour. Money is no use to us in the next life.

Emissary: 4000 koku.

Monks: OK, where do we sign up?

attacking mori is easy, but attacking takeda is more useful, I think.

I never know whether to go east or west as Oda. In my campaign I only went east as far as Echizen, Mino and Totomi (and I only grabbed Totomi so I could weaken Imagawa and sell his buildings - I'd rather have Mikawa as a border) then went west. Uesugi and Hojo then went crazy fighting each other for Shinano so I just built a watchtower and wached the fights.

And I didn't have any Mori to deal with because he doesn't exist in 1530. I had some big rebel armies over there and Takeda Shingen, though. Looks like NodachiSam's playing the classic Sengoku Jidai campaign. Which also starts in 1530, whatever.

How about attacking both of them? I'd attack Awaji, Harima, Tamba, Wakasa and Mino all at once.
Attack! Kill! Pillage!

[NodachiSam]

lol! The monks did clear out my treasury fairly well. They took 2500 or so. Greedy guys, there were only 180 of them. They took the lives on none of my soldiers though.

I am actually playing the 1550 game, no SJ. I like to expand out a bit and I'm usually not too aggressive against other clans immediately. After my experience with MTW I am putting the taxes at punitive as much as possible, where as before I would rarely ever put it above normal. I'm not really that ruthless.

Why do I post so many?
Laziness perhaps? No,
Photobucket easy makes.

I decided to stab dear innocent Lord takeda in the backside and attacked Mino. He had about 650 soldiers at the beginning. Not a bad battle for me considering the difficulty is on hard.


Nobunaga got back the star he lost.


This is an ambitious season. I actually have no intention of taking Hida though since I don't don't know what my army is up against. I just cancelled the attack but hopefully prevented those soldiers from joining in the Shinano battle.


I'm not a great ally here. Mori sent in a 4 star calv archer and two yari sam units to help me but I was rather sluggish to help He happily charged into the woods where the enemy greated him but he came out with 11 of his men.


Charge! I like the MTW camera for making cinamatic shots, I assume the RTW camera is even better.


Not a bad victory. I nearly lost my impetuos Daimyo though in the forest.


It doesn't show but Uesugi and Hojo also attacked but I decided to attack anyways hoping they would trie themselves out and I could clean up.

Feng Tsu would be proud, not a drop of blood was shed. Takeda ran and I had the largest force so I kept the province.


Echizen is empty but I need to keep Mino guarded. I know that Takeda probably has a few monks besieged with a stack. Maybe I will send in two ashigaru to claim to province but not hold it seriously.


I will possibly take Awaji if these revolts keep happening. Then again Harima has low loyalty, maybe I can create a big revolt there and take it. I need more shinobi for that though.

[Drisos]

lol! The monks did clear out my treasury fairly well. They took 2500 or so. Greedy guys, there were only 180 of them. They took the lives on none of my soldiers though.

I am actually playing the 1550 game, no SJ. I like to expand out a bit and I'm usually not too aggressive against other clans immediately. After my experience with MTW I am putting the taxes at punitive as much as possible, where as before I would rarely ever put it above normal. I'm not really that ruthless.

Why do I post so many?
Laziness perhaps? No,
Photobucket easy makes.

I decided to stab dear innocent Lord takeda in the backside and attacked Mino. He had about 650 soldiers at the beginning. Not a bad battle for me considering the difficulty is on hard.

This is an ambitious season. I actually have no intention of taking Hida though since I don't don't know what my army is up against. I just cancelled the attack but hopefully prevented those soldiers from joining in the Shinano battle.

I'm not a great ally here. Mori sent in a 4 star calv archer and two yari sam units to help me but I was rather sluggish to help He happily charged into the woods where the enemy greated him but he came out with 11 of his men.

Charge! I like the MTW camera for making cinamatic shots, I assume the RTW camera is even better.


Not a bad victory. I nearly lost my impetuos Daimyo though in the forest.
It doesn't show but Uesugi and Hojo also attacked but I decided to attack anyways hoping they would trie themselves out and I could clean up.

Feng Tsu would be proud, not a drop of blood was shed. Takeda ran and I had the largest force so I kept the province.

Echizen is empty but I need to keep Mino guarded. I know that Takeda probably has a few monks besieged with a stack. Maybe I will send in two ashigaru to claim to province but not hold it seriously.

I will possibly take Awaji if these revolts keep happening. Then again Harima has low loyalty, maybe I can create a big revolt there and take it. I need more shinobi for that though.

Thank you for this post. very nice to read magnificent screens too!

congrats on your victories! it goes very well now!

one tip: try to maintain peace with hojo and uesugi and even get in alliance with one of them. you should now finish off takeda and maybe start attacking the mori sometime.

[p_nutter]

I am actually playing the 1550 game, no SJ.

Oops - I saw 1558 in your picture and somehow read 1538.

Your campaign is going well. Suddenly Takeda doesn't look so threatening, and Mori has some revolts to deal with.

Just thought of something: What happens if you send an army in to help your buddy Mori with the revolts? If your army is larger than his, do you get to keep the province, and stay allied with him?

[NodachiSam]

Thanks for the responses! The school year has started for me again so I've been pretty busy. It takes a long time to do these and I will try to skip less crucial parts in the future of this campaign.

I'm glad you like the screen shots. :) I'll offer alliances to both Hojo and Uesugi. I've sent two diplomats east but ninjas keep getting to them. Hopefully my messangers will make it out of my own lands this time, yeesh. My lands are pretty lawless apparently. Thanks for the advice.

Yea I hope to take over Takeda's lands soon. His forces in Kaga pose a large problem. My shinobi are doing their jobs :D though it doesn't seem to have a large effect. I am thinking about sending 4 shinobi through his lands to Aki or is it Kii and spring up some rebels and optomistically cause him to lose his capital.

This was the only battle I've logged since last time. I invaded Suruga, and Echizen with under 100 men and Takeda fled both provinces (a high star general popped up in Echizen but sadly decided to flee to his troops.) This battle for Hida was a bittersweat victory. I did get the province and I kill more men than lost but considering the just the numbers we did fairly equally which is good since I was feeling very uneasy about the outcome of this battle once I got on the battlefield. My army probably was much cheaper than his though.

I looked in the battle log and this force I fought had two full units of sam archers 1hon and 2hon, 28 yari cav about 3 avg hon (contained general) and 31 cav archers (who all escaped ) Not having any spear infantry would definately be this guys weakness but I was still pretty worried when I saw what my ashis were up against. You probably are thinking I should invest in horses, hehe.




Get your mittens on the battle begins!

I don't know how I would have faired under these circumstances were I defending but I probably would have put all my men on the other side of that cliff on the hill. Through most of this battle I had higher ground.



The takeda general began to charge his men but I moved on a hill and he changed his mind.


I planned to send two ashis up the hill and hit the flank of these archers from uphill while my other men would hit their fronts. The archers picked my yari unit but I think the general would've been a better choice. The yari calvary general, seeing the exposed flank and hind corner of my ashis decided to march uphill to try to show those stupid farmers who is boss. Which perhaps was his best move considering he faced an army of spears. My men greeted him with a firm hug- of death! Bwahahaha


My general and another unit took on the archers. Only one yari cav unit made it off the battlefield that day but not their general!



The enemy routed shortly after the death of its general. A bitter sweat victory.


Mino, Mikawa, Omi, Ise and Owari all are unit producing and I've gathered a small force instead of sending them to their nearby front provinces. I'm going to try to take Kaga, they have a number of horses and will probably have two units of monks by the time my army gets there.

I am considering sending all the units in Hida and Echizen to fight but I am concerned the Uesugi might take the opportunity to attack Hida and Shinano. I've never really left a border province unguarded before, I would restock it if I have a siege going in Kaga.


Mori is a great concern. Do they start with a famous smith or something?? Soon my shinobi plan to travel to Aki to find out.



This is what the map looks like right now. Mori has to guard 8 provinces and I've noted and he is probably stronger than Shimazu by now considering their domain. The last time I checked all three of us southern clans are allied.