3rd of October closing in - Hotline for Turkey

**LeftEyeNine** · 09-06-2005, 18:03

Frankly, I do not think that Turkey does not fit the requirements for membership. It is certainly quite poor ; insists on claiming half of Cyprus, something which it shall have to stop ; and, of course, the small matter of its continent, since only Constantinople and some little places to the north and west thereof are part of this glorious peninsula of Europe

Sorry but it is internationally Istanbul for the last 552 years. We call it "Londra" in Turkish, but it is London internationally. That's not a matter of Greek - Turkish conflict, that's a political and geographical fact.

Cyprus issue totally belongs to another topic for a debate. I won't be attempting anything before I gather stabel and reliable information about the history of the matter.

**Duke Malcolm** · 09-06-2005, 18:09

Britain is an island off the coast of mainland Europe, Turkey is Asia Minor, with a little triangle of land at the bottom right of the map.

Sorry, I just think Constantinople is a much nicer name than Istanbul.

**Adrian II** · 09-06-2005, 18:21

Originally Posted by King Malcolm

Britain is an island off the coast of mainland Europe, Turkey is Asia Minor, with a little triangle of land at the bottom right of the map.

Turkey is a growing part of the European economy and the European community of states and brings with it a cultural inheritance that will benefit us all. Britain is America Minor. It doesn't even have a small triangle anywhere except in Ireland, which it should leave in the same way Turkey should leave Cyprus.

**Duke Malcolm** · 09-07-2005, 16:57

Originally Posted by AdrianII

Turkey is a growing part of the European economy and the European community of states and brings with it a cultural inheritance that will benefit us all. Britain is America Minor. It doesn't even have a small triangle anywhere except in Ireland, which it should leave in the same way Turkey should leave Cyprus.

Britain is a group of islands off the coast of Europe, it is on the European continental shelf. The majority of Turkey, however, is on the continent of Asia, as is the country's capital. It is a non-European country with a small triangle of land in this continent. Whether the addition of a new culture would benefit us all is a matter of opinion. And the matter of Northern Ireland is a different matter entirely, and is best not discussed in a thread about Turkey

**Adrian II** · 09-07-2005, 18:11

Originally Posted by King Malcolm

It is a non-European country with a small triangle of land in this continent.

One should not petition one's principium, old chap!

That last smiley is 'Fritounetteke'...

**A.Saturnus** · 09-07-2005, 21:24

Originally Posted by King Malcolm

Britain is a group of islands off the coast of Europe, it is on the European continental shelf. The majority of Turkey, however, is on the continent of Asia, as is the country's capital. It is a non-European country with a small triangle of land in this continent. Whether the addition of a new culture would benefit us all is a matter of opinion. And the matter of Northern Ireland is a different matter entirely, and is best not discussed in a thread about Turkey

On that little triangle live about 15 million people. By the same reasoning Denmark is also not part of Europe, in fact. Greenland is officially part of Denmark and not part of any continent.
But why should that matter anyway? It seems unreasonable to let a political, economical and historical matter like that be decided by which continental shelf the majority of the country is on. Sorry, I can´t help but to think that this argument is just an alibi for other unspoken reasons against Turkey.

**Kagemusha** · 09-07-2005, 21:42

I have nothing against Turkey to be a part of EU in the future.But EU is now in so sad state of affairs,that we shouldnt take any more members before EU can even get a popular support of its existance among member nations population.

**Papewaio** · 09-07-2005, 22:01

Originally Posted by A.Saturnus

It seems unreasonable to let a political, economical and historical matter like that be decided by which continental shelf the majority of the country is on.

So can British Commonwealth Nations join then? Can the USA join?

Why or why not?

Too many asians?

**Adrian II** · 09-07-2005, 22:32

Originally Posted by A.Saturnus

On that little triangle live about 15 million people. By the same reasoning Denmark is also not part of Europe, in fact. Greenland is officially part of Denmark and not part of any continent.

And what was that about the Falklands being British?...

Wrong shelf, gentlemen!

**Papewaio** · 09-08-2005, 00:41

Howabout all the countries on the interface between two continental shelves?

Do they have to divide themselves up based on the geological definitons?

Should we also look at cratons?