3rd of October closing in - Hotline for Turkey

**Redleg** · 09-09-2005, 01:09

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

So NAFTA is nonsense from the start, huh ? You know native Americans have no power on it, the founders are the invaders..

Now that is a great come back to Byzantine Prince's comment. Game set match to LeftEyeNine

**LeftEyeNine** · 09-09-2005, 01:26

AntiochusIII

So we may call it "reformation of Constantinople" instead of "destruction". Well, such a change was unavoidable. Because, you know, Ottomans were representatives of Islamic culture. If they were Hungarians, Franks or another Christian nation conquering it, the change would not be such a significant distinction between the old and the new Constantinople.

Hagia Sofia is preserved at its best condition - converted a mosque and we call it Ayasofya Mosque. It is still the top historical symbol of Istanbul, above Suleymaniye Mosque or Palace Of Topkapi.

**LeftEyeNine** · 09-09-2005, 01:46

It is the custom pronounciation that fits our laryngeal. As it was debated in "Fall Of Constantinople" thread, the word that meant "To The City" in Greek was later pronounced the way that Turks could pronounce it. The word has no actual meaning in Turkish.

**LeftEyeNine** · 09-09-2005, 01:54

Byzantine Prince,

We are no longer invaders. Because, if it is Trachian part that you count to be geographically European it's been more than 500 years we are over there.

NAFTA founders are not native Americans, that validates my point. And as long as you do not visit Turkey, you will not be able to see that Greeks in Turkey are at least equivalents of Indians in USA. Where did you hear that please? There are even Greeks who moved to Greece but could not stand staying away from their homelands and coming back to live in Turkey under Turkish government. What can you call this then..please ?

**Redleg** · 09-09-2005, 02:29

Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine

Byzantine Prince,

We are no longer invaders. Because, if it is Trachian part that you count to be geographically European it's been more than 500 years we are over there.

You could even futher show the racism in his statements and the error in his logic.

Did Rome and Greece both invade and hold what is now Turkey for several hundred years as rulers. During that time period would not the invaders have intermixed with the natives - hence intermixing European genetics into the people who live in the boundries of the present day nation of Turkey.

NAFTA founders are not native Americans, that validates my point. And as long as you do not visit Turkey, you will not be able to see that Greeks in Turkey are at least equivalents of Indians in USA. Where did you hear that please? There are even Greeks who moved to Greece but could not stand staying away from their homelands and coming back to live in Turkey under Turkish government. What can you call this then..please ?

See above statement - I think it also covers your point here just as well also,