Go tell the spartans, strangers passing by, that here obedient to there laws we lie

[jerby]

It's probably been discussed to death, revived, and discussed to death again. but he.
-anybody tell me who's qoute it is, and what it means(sorta quiz.)
-will EB's spartans fight in the same style as thei thermopylan predecesors or will they be more like the Iphicraten ones?
-i know the spartans wont be CA's juggernauts(luckily) but hwo will they compare?
-since Sparta has bled to death, what number will be one unit (like: normal ones are 40..wiht how many will teh spartans be?)
-will they get two hitpoints?(wich brings me to my next topic)

[curufinwe_91]

i think its just the writing on a plaque written over the spartan's grave at thermopylae that celebrates the spartan's bravery in defending the path for 3 days. the "laws" just mean that sparta had a law that no man could run away in battle.

i could be rambling and completely wrong, so i apologise if i am.

[jerby]

indeed, i just looked it up.
i primiraly got it form Steven Pressfield. but the line is form simonides.
thanks for the bump!

[RandyKapp]

300 Spartans didnt hold the path for 3 days thats a myth. It was a largish army of united Greeks most of whom retreated after holding the pass for some days. The Spartans stays behind like the strongheaded fools they were and were annihilated by skirmishers since the Persians didnt want to engage them head on (with good reason)

[jerby]

yup,,that's right..with their allies they held the pass for 7 days total, wasn't it? of those 7, the 300 only did the last day 'by themselves'.
didn't know they were out-skirmished tough, but a sensible strat for the persians..

[Reverend Joe]

Thank you for clarifying that. I have always despised the legend of the Spartans who fought for a whole day to allow their allies to retreat- no general with any common sense would send wave after wave of men to their death.

[jerby]

remember Cannae?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

The univ. that I'm at now has a big monument with that greek phrase on it. It has to do with a lot of university students being killed in battle and honoring them. It's cool to be able to point students toward it and explain it to them - they rarely know anything about it even though it's smack-dab in the middle of campus. I'll not say what war it was...

[GoreBag]

Thank you for clarifying that. I have always despised the legend of the Spartans who fought for a whole day to allow their allies to retreat- no general with any common sense would send wave after wave of men to their death.

Uhhh....

[jerby]

Uhhh....

yeah..it indeed wouldn't be teh first time..

cannae..well basically every battle the Pre-marian romans lost was because of sheer arrogance an overconfidence in numbers...
Thermopyale seems to fit that row.
Gaugamela is also a nice one in this row.

[Urnamma]

It's probably been discussed to death, revived, and discussed to death again. but he.
-anybody tell me who's qoute it is, and what it means(sorta quiz.)
-will EB's spartans fight in the same style as thei thermopylan predecesors or will they be more like the Iphicraten ones?
-i know the spartans wont be CA's juggernauts(luckily) but hwo will they compare?
-since Sparta has bled to death, what number will be one unit (like: normal ones are 40..wiht how many will teh spartans be?)
-will they get two hitpoints?(wich brings me to my next topic)

1) Huh?
2) They will fight with underhand spears. Spartiates will probably be the best KH unit, though not juggernauts.
3) On Large, probably 60 or 80
4) probably not