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    Quote Originally Posted by Del Arroyo
    Hate to burst your bubble, but we massacred villages pretty regularly. As in, in every single Indian War, and sometimes in between Indian Wars, pretty much whenever it suited our fancy.
    Hold on cowboy - massacring of native villages did happen - but it was not pretty regularly.

    We also made sure to execute any whites who turned native.
    Again incorrect - was Kit Carson executed. There are so many more that were not executed that went native or were completely for insuring Native Americans were protected. And I would not be alive since at least one relative on both sides of my family went Native.


    At any rate, the main reason you don't hear so much about the atrocities is that there simply was not as great a population density in North America. We didn't enslave our Injuns because they weren't civilized enough-- we just killed their women and children, marched them Westward to their deaths, etc.

    DA

    Revision is taking hold I guess. And I guess you believe that the Native American's went quietly to the west. Massacres happen on both sides - the difference is that the Whites were a more successful and had a larger population base which was organized. You might want to brush up on a few of the Indian Wars before making such statements as this. Were many caused by the White's you betcha - however try researching this little one for instance.

    1862 Sioux Uprising.

    Quote Originally Posted by start of the 1862 Sioux Uprising
    The story goes that the four braves came upon the property of Mr. and Mrs. Robinson Jones, who ran a combined store and post office on their land. Near the fence that marked the boundary of Jones’s land, the four Indians found some eggs in a hen’s nest. Being hungry, one of the braves picked up the eggs.
    After doing this he was advised by another one of the Indians not to take them. An argument then started between the two, the former calling the latter a coward. Angered by this charge the latter offered to show that he was anything but a coward.

    He was going to do this by going onto Jones’s land and killing him. At this time Jones was in his store so that is where the Indians went. When the four Indians got there, they tried to act tough. However, Jones saw them as no threat and he left to go to the house of his brother-in-law, Howard Baker.

    The Indians followed him there, and offered to play a game of target practice, which was common during those times. So Jones, Baker, and his friend Webster took turns with the Indians firing at a block of wood sitting on a tree stump. Then suddenly, all four Indians turned on Jones and shot him. Then they took aim at the men’s wives, who were watching on the porch. Baker saw this and jumped in front of the women, taking a bullet to the chest. The Indians then quickly brought down Webster and Mrs. Jones.

    The Indians fled immediately, realizing what would happen if they were caught. As they were leaving, Clara Wilson, one of Jones’s adopted children, saw them from the doorway and she was gunned down as well, bringing the death count to five.

    When the Indians arrived back at Rice Creek they immediately told Chief Shakopee what they had done. Excited Shakopee advised they go and tell Little Crow the news. On Monday, August 18, 1862, the four braves and Shakopee told Little Crow about the murder of the five whites and how a full-blown war should be started. Little Crow was reluctant considering how he was trying to keep peace with the whites. However, he could not hold back the chance and the rest is history.
    http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/tba...witstarted.htm

    Of course the whites had a hand in the mistreatment of the Indians that often caused the uprisings and masscares
    Last edited by Redleg; 09-07-2005 at 19:01.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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