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    Default Re: Am I a racist ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aenlic
    Except, if you'll look back, sport, you'll see that you entered the discussion on the topic of massacres by calling me ignorant first; to which I responded with the post calling you a revisionist. If you can't take it, then don't dish it out. Prior to that, I hadn't even directed a pst at you in this thread. You started it, now deal with it and quit whining.
    Again then you misread the statement - where did I call you ignorant - I stated simply this The problem comes from both poles of prespective - even in your statement you show ignorance of what actually happened and gognitive dissonance seems to be setting in

    Here is the statement that refers to:

    But people like to feel good about themselves. They like to think their "civilization" is more advanced and better. So the realities are ignored if they are in any way negative. Cognitive dissonance sets in. It's so much easier to wave your flag about in happy ignorance than with a healthy dose of reality to leaven the nationalism.

    Shall I point out the errors in your initial post regarding history again in that same post which was all one paragraph. Maybe I should of split them in two and I would of understood your statements within the context of what you orginally meant - but I read the paragraph as the paragraph being all of one thought..

    When we found someplace that looked reasonably inhospitable and uninhabitable, we shunted them off to reservations from which they weren't allowed to leave - even to hunt for food.
    Where you then went to refer to the Black Hills and the Souix Reservation and the resulting conflict because of the white intrusion onto the reservation because of Custer's scouting and actions.

    Your initial paragraph was not true regarding the Souix of the Black Hills Reservation in the 1870-1875 time frame. Cheif Red Cloud won the tribe the rights to hunt in the unceded lands - something you seem to ignore or were ignorant of in your initial post.

    Not once did I say you are ignorant - just that you have shown ignorance of what really happened in your statement.

    Ingnorance of what actually happens could also be written as lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified (the thing specified being that some tribes were indeed allowed to hunt off of Reservation Lands)

    Calling someone ignorant would imply something else. An direct insult meaning that one is destitute of knowledge or education. Which is not what I stated now is it.

    By the way I can more then take it - but some things seem to be more of your misunderstanding of what is written and you having a thin skin when someone states your lack of knowledge concerning a given subject. You like to play little word games - but it seems you missed the intent and the context of my statment and took it for an insult. Laughable and sad at the same time.

    The statement as used does not imply one is ignorant as an individual - just lacks knowledge or understanding of a particlur subject. I am ignorant of a few things - like how a submarine works under water. How to repair a nuclear power plant. That does not mean I am ignorant as an individual - just that I lack knowledge of those subjects.

    Did you not in an earlier thread attempt to critize people for not reading what is written and seeing what they wanted to see. I suspect you wanted to see the statement as an insult - not for what it actually stated so that you can claim my statements were nothing but revision. However I haven't seen you address your conflicts about Wounded Knee and the 1876 Souix Uprising. Nor your other historical inaccuracies on the subject.

    It seems again that instead of reading what is written you decided to assume that my statement was an insult - verus a simple statment.

    Now the use of the word rivisionist is indeed a delibrate attempt at insulting a person with an opposing view. Where my use of the word ignorance was used correctly in the context of the statement - but I was ignorant is assuming that you were an educated individual who understood the finer points of the english language in a written discussion. I tell you what - I will attempt to use even simplier english and fewer bigger words so that my spelling mistakes don't confuse you.

    Hell the use of the word ignorance was even about massacres but the whole jumbled paragraph that you initially written about the Black Hills and hunting. But a nice attempt to take the statement out of context of what was written.
    Last edited by Redleg; 09-08-2005 at 06:12.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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