Troop fighting and terrain bonuses

[Knight Templar]

I've been looking for bonuses which units receive when fighting against other particular units or when fighting in particular terrain. Here's what I found:


Terrain and climate bonuses:

desert-desert units (Bedouin camel warriors for example) get +1 att
lush/temperate-desert units receive -1 att penalty
forest-decreases strength of cavarly and spearmen (they lose supporting ranks bonus), decreases accuracy of archers
bridge- decreases cavalry strength ??
rain- decreases archer accuracy, disables handgunners to shoot

Fighing bonuses: (AP not included)

Spearmen-- when fighing against cav +1 att, +4 def; with 2 supporting ranks +1 att, +2 def
Pikemen- against cav +2 att, +6 def; with 4 supporting ranks +2 att, +4 def
Polearms- against cav +3 att, +1 def
Camels- against cav +2 att, +4 def
Swordmen- against spearmen +1 att
Cavalry- against swordsmen +1att


fatigue:
quite tired- -2 att
very tired- -3 att, -1 def
exhausted- -4 att, -2 def
totally exhausted- -6 att, -3 def

Do you know for any other bonuses?

[Weebeast]

Since you didn't mention this, I don't know the exact equation but heavily-armored troops receive a penalty in the desert with the exception of those muslim units.

[Ludens]

Since you didn't mention this, I don't know the exact equation but heavily-armored troops receive a penalty in the desert with the exception of those muslim units.

As far as I know, the desert confers no penalty except for extra fatigue to armoured units. And the Muslims are not exempt from this (except that they are usually less well-armoured).

[Procrustes]

Well, if it's raining or snowing gunpowder units don't work and bows and cross-bows get some kind of penalty. (Arbs don't because they have a steel string?) Sorry I'm not sure of the details.

[ajaxfetish]

Forests hurt ranged units as well as horses and spears because the trees break up their missile fire.

Also bonuses for attacking downhill and penalties for attacking uphill, but I don't know the values (and I think it changes depending on the steepness of the hill).

Low hills impede the fire of units with a fairly flat trajectory such as crossbows, but not standard archers who can employ a higher arc in their firing.

And of course there's the ability to hide in the forests, which can indirectly give the ambush bonus.

Ajax

[Budwise]

You forgot the Cav bonus vs Swordmen. I don't know what it is but I believe there is one.

[crpcarrot]

You forgot the Cav bonus vs Swordmen. I don't know what it is but I believe there is one.

IIRC there is no bonus for cavalry against swords only that spears receive a bonus against cavalry

also ranged unit can only fire if they have line of sight to target so if u place archers in the forest only the ones who can "see" the enemy through the trees will fire although the whole unit will cycle through the annimation.

[Patron]

Spearmen can also stop charging cavalry if they are facing the charge, though spearmen with poor defence will be pushed back.

They also still get their rank bonus in a forest, it is simply less likely for them to get it as the trees force rear ranks into each other and jumble them up making it difficult to get a straight line of 4 men behind one guy who is fighting up front.

[EatYerGreens]

also ranged unit can only fire if they have line of sight to target so if u place archers in the forest only the ones who can "see" the enemy through the trees will fire although the whole unit will cycle through the annimation.

In one battle I tried to get my one unit of archers to fire lengthwise through the thin line of trees I was lurking in (archers at right angle to the line of trees, so some were in trees and some in the open) and, on that occasion, I saw that only part of the unit was animating the firing action.

I doubt this was a range issue. The target I'd selected were also in trees at the time and this seems to have been doubly disadvantageous. Target hard to sight and arrows clatter into the branches before reaching the required spot.

I can understand the factor whereby trees give targeted units protection against missiles fired from some distance away (particularly high, curved trajectory, like conventional archers and longbows) but archery skill was originally developed for hunting purposes and you would think that ability to fire accurately when amongst trees should be second nature (hunting deer, boar etc). Perhaps it is achievable (in the game) but only at very short range - like 50 yards - and clear line of sight is still essential.