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    Default Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    I was just thinking about this, last night I had several small battles, a couple of hundred strong expedition forces against fairly devastated Russian holdings.
    It took an inordinate amount of time to hunt each unit down since they were mostly small woodsmen hidden in woods all over the place.
    So in the end boring for me and Russia was still dispossesed of her Balkan holdings.

    What I'm wondering is does anyone use the time limit on battles? Does it make things more interesting? How do large battles work out with so little time? I've fought 3-4 hour battles against the Horde as the Turkish before, they were exhausting but still a lot of fun. Is the time limit determined by the size of the forces or anything?

    edit: hah, I forgot my main point! Would the time limit affect AI battles? As in it might prevent the rise of superpoweres raging across the map, since a small unit hiding in a wood could foil a massive advance across the Bosphorus or into Georgia for example.
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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    It save me from super large mongol stacks.
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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    In the Game settings, time limit is the only thing unchecked.

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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    My guess is that the time limit benefits players rather than the AI. Seems like players would be more tempted to 'run out the clock' by scattering units or playing hide and seek with a couple cav archers.

    I keep my limit off

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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    Heck, I haven't had the timer on since I started playing Shogun back in 2000. It drives me crazy when I lose a battle just because I can't find some guy hiding out in the woods. On the other hand, I also hate winning by simply running out the clock--for me, it doesn't feel like a true victory.
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    The time limit problem has only hurt me once. My English forces had virtually no cavalry and I was facing a Novogrod force of infantry and mounted skirmishers. I routed all the infantry, but a few mounted xbows were still about. Of course, by now, I had no cav left, so we just mulled around until the time limit when, although I had routed 3/4s of the Russkis, I lost.
    It annoyed me at the time, but I suppose it does open up a strategy of delaying tactics etc.
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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Martok
    Heck, I haven't had the timer on since I started playing Shogun back in 2000. It drives me crazy when I lose a battle just because I can't find some guy hiding out in the woods. On the other hand, I also hate winning by simply running out the clock--for me, it doesn't feel like a true victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichi
    My guess is that the time limit benefits players rather than the AI. Seems like players would be more tempted to 'run out the clock' by scattering units or playing hide and seek with a couple cav archers.

    I keep my limit off

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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
    I don't like fighting againt huge amounts of HA.

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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
    I don't like fighting againt huge amounts of HA.
    They are the bain of my existance. I am mostly an infantry person and rarely rely on missle and horse.

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    Default Re: Time limit in battles? Gives AI a chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by ichi
    My guess is that the time limit benefits players rather than the AI. Seems like players would be more tempted to 'run out the clock' by scattering units or playing hide and seek with a couple cav archers.

    I keep my limit off

    ichi
    Yeah, I've done that before.

    One time, I only had 2 royal knights vs 3 squads of spearmen toward the beginning of the game. I desperately needed to keep this providence and not lose it, not even to the stronghold. Luckly, I forgot to uncheck the Time Limit box after I installed the game and I won by running around the map.

    After that, I unchecked the box.
    Work, Girlfriend, Responsibilities, Reality, Kids, and MTW - all things in life make life worth living.

    Edit October 17th, 2007
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