Removing the editing function, an exercise in pointlessness

[Es Arkajae]

Like really, was it even thought through?

What is it supposed to be in any case, a punishment?

Yeah I can imagine someone collapsing into a big weeping puddle of grief over the loss of the editing button...

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*lightning illuminates a dark room on Coruscant capital of the Empire*

Member: "Where is my editing button?, is it... alright?"

Mod: "I'm afraid it didn't survive your second warning"

Member: "No!, Thats impossible! It was fine when I last saw it!"

Member: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!"

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One would think that the editing function was for the benefit of the entire community, so that they don't have to put up with badly spelled or poorly coded entries and multiple posts making corrections and people enunciating on what they earlier said.

Removing sigs and avatars and such sure thats fine though rather pathetic as any real disincentive, but removing the editing function???


Hey its no skin off my nose, I and anyone else on level 2 or higher will just have to post another post everytime we want to make any significant correction or addition to an earlier post. Hardly difficult.

But in the spirit of being helpful I'd suggest that this particular policy be reviewed, its irrelevent at best.

[Ludens]

It is not irrelevant at all. It is to prevent people from editing insults, forum rules breakages, etc. out of their posts before the moderators see them.

If a flame war breaks out, and one of the participants goes back and edits all his posts, he can claim to be innocent and there is no way for the mods to prove that he actually wrote the offending messages his opponents quote. Therefor known offenders have their edit button disabled. A side effect is that it forces them to think before they post, since they cannot go back and edit it. A lot of insulting messages result more from carelessness than from bad intent.

[Es Arkajae]

It is not irrelevant at all. It is to prevent people from editing insults, forum rules breakages, etc. out of their posts before the moderators see them.

If someone is moderating their own posts and making them more acceptable then that is a good thing. Means less work for the mods and a better policed forum with people policing themselves. The VB code already indicates to everyone when someone has edited their post, and if several people have already seen an insult which someone has then edited out for the purpose of deceit then the mods will be able to use the brains that God gave them to figure it out by asking people in the thread.

Its not bloody rocket science mate.

If a flame war breaks out, and one of the participants goes back and edits all his posts, he can claim to be innocent and there is no way for the mods to prove that he actually wrote the offending messages his opponents quote. Therefor known offenders have their edit button disabled. A side effect is that it forces them to think before they post, since they cannot go back and edit it.

I've addressed this above. I'd add that the number of times I've ever come across this supposed 'problem' you raise in all my time on the internet is ONCE in the space of 5 years. And then the problem was easily solved by pointing to the "last edited on" notice and I was swiftly backed up by several others who had also seen it.

A lot of insulting messages result more from carelessness than from bad intent.

...And this is supposed to be an argument for removing the editing function.

I literally laughed out loud when I found out the reason for the edit button being removed, thats how silly it is

As I said no skin off my nose, but I've failed to see any convincing arguments for the measure so far in this thread.

[Mikeus Caesar]

I've learnt to live without the edit button. It's not that much of a punishment, more of a badge of pride.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I've learnt to live without the edit button. It's not that much of a punishment, more of a badge of pride.

Yes, I always wanted a warning level one...PLEEASSEEEEEEEEEEEEE .

[Simetrical]

I'd add that the number of times I've ever come across this supposed 'problem' you raise in all my time on the internet is ONCE in the space of 5 years. And then the problem was easily solved by pointing to the "last edited on" notice and I was swiftly backed up by several others who had also seen it.

I completely agree with that. I've only come across this once at TWC, and it was easy to spot. If someone has been warned before, then they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt in any case.

[PanzerJaeger]

Taking away my ability to edit has probably been the toughest punishment I could be dealt on an internet forum. I miss it far more than my signature.

I constantly wish I could change something I said, and the loss of that ability is a big "punishment".

[Papewaio]

So you find not being able to edit a punishment?

And you can't edit because you were well behaved?

Same thing happens to Junior Members.

It allows us to see the full post and in context.

[The Stranger]

It is not irrelevant at all. It is to prevent people from editing insults, forum rules breakages, etc. out of their posts before the moderators see them.

If a flame war breaks out, and one of the participants goes back and edits all his posts, he can claim to be innocent and there is no way for the mods to prove that he actually wrote the offending messages his opponents quote. Therefor known offenders have their edit button disabled. A side effect is that it forces them to think before they post, since they cannot go back and edit it. A lot of insulting messages result more from carelessness than from bad intent.

but i'm not a known offender...i just spam allot and i lost my edit button tooo

[Del Arroyo]

This thread only confirms my suspicions that Moderators either became moderators for a REASON or are warped psychologically by their position.

DA

[Papewaio]

This thread only confirms my suspicions that Moderators either became moderators for a REASON or are warped psychologically by their position.

DA

Oh definitly pre-warped... that is why we have had so many Aussies Moderators over the years

[King Henry V]

But doesn't removing the editing button almost promote spam, since people have to write a new post to correct the previous one, thus upping their post count?

[The Stranger]

yeah...what

[The Stranger]

shit no xtra PCount here

[TosaInu]

But doesn't removing the editing button almost promote spam, since people have to write a new post to correct the previous one, thus upping their post count?

Could be, but spotting persistent incompatible accounts has a higher priority.

[Ludens]

But doesn't removing the editing button almost promote spam, since people have to write a new post to correct the previous one, thus upping their post count?

True, but hopefully they will learn to preview and edit their post before submitting them.

[Del Arroyo]

Wow, my edit button is gone now too. When did that happen??