Republicans in Full Cover Up Mode after Katrina

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Apparently Americans arent going for this propoganda. The left and its mouth piece the liberal media no longer are taken seriously it seems. Only 13% of Americans blame Bush. I suggest 13% of Americans would blame Bush for anything bad that happened.

How would your supposed independent investigation be set up? Who would form and lead it?

Hopefully better than that farce that was the 911 commision. Maybe we should put the head of FEMA on this one.

[Aenlic]

There's an unused pike sitting about somewhere that is just calling for the head of FEMA, or more specifically the head of the head of FEMA.

[Red Harvest]

Apparently Americans arent going for this propoganda. The left and its mouth piece the liberal media no longer are taken seriously it seems. Only 13% of Americans blame Bush. I suggest 13% of Americans would blame Bush for anything bad that happened.

People should check out Pollingreport.com if they want a more accurate picture. Gawain is glossing over the real poll results.

Yet 65% said he personally responded too slowly in one poll I saw today while another poll had 60% saying he personally handled it poorly. Another poll had 42% saying Dubya's response was "bad" or "terrible" (with a "fair" and two positive responses also thrown in the mix.) Another has 47% disapproving of the way he handled Katrina.

Of course the one you are quoting asks who is MOST responsible:
The breakdown is
Bush 13%
Fed. Agencies 18%
State/Local 25%
Noone 38%
Unsure 6%

So in reality 31% see either Bush or the Federal govt as most responsible, while State/Local combined at 25%.

And in another poll from 9/2 when asked how much blame Bush deserved for the poor Federal response:
A Great Deal 23%
A Good Amount 20%
Only Some 33%
None 22%
Unsure 1%

[PanzerJaeger]

Through your furious "calculations" in an effort to prove that Americans are on your side and against Bush, you're only showing your agenda.

You're judge, jury and executioner it seems. Even while calling for a supposed "independent investigation", you've passed judgement.

Why do we need an investigation at all? You can simply tell us exactly who is at fault, as you have already decided on a version of the events that supports your hatred of G.Dubya..

[Goofball]

Through your furious "calculations" in an effort to prove that Americans are on your side and against Bush, you're only showing your agenda.

Actually PJ, all he did was post the numbers and add "13 + 18," which hardly qualifies as "furious calculations." Are you trying to say his math is wrong? Or are you simply unable to admit that he is right so you make denigrating remarks rather than addressing the facts?

[Tribesman]

you're only showing your agenda.
Yet in every single thread concerning this disaster Panzer all you seem to be saying again and again is basically ....
"you are only saying the government ballsed it up because you hate Bush" .

So what was this agenda you were talking about ?

[Redleg]

you're only showing your agenda.
Yet in every single thread concerning this disaster Panzer all you seem to be saying again and again is basically ....
"you are only saying the government ballsed it up because you hate Bush" .

So what was this agenda you were talking about ?

Hell I will help you Tribesman what should be stated is that the government ballsed it up because its the government

[Tribesman]

Same the world over Redleg

[Devastatin Dave]

Here we go...
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/...gion-apnewyork
Predictable...

[Devastatin Dave]

Good article..
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.as...20050908a.html

[Aenlic]

Look it's Cybercast News! Brought to you by the good folks at the Media Resource Center and L. Brent Bozell III. (see other thread)

The only possible way this could get funnier would be for one of our conservative friends here to start posting links to one of Lyndon LaRouche's web sites.

[Red Harvest]

Look it's Cybercast News! Brought to you by the good folks at the Media Resource Center and L. Brent Bozell III. (see other thread)

The only possible way this could get funnier would be for one of our conservative friends here to start posting links to one of Lyndon LaRouche's web sites.

The Queen was behind this I tell ya...

[Redleg]

Just to make your day

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/200...ma_ruined.html

FEMA Made Inoperative By Bush/Cheney Agenda
by Mary Jane Freeman

New Orleans emergency official Terry Ebbert called the Bush Administration's response to Hurricane Katrina's assault "a national disgrace." On the morning of Aug. 31, at the New Orleans Superdome, he warned that the slow evacuation there had become an "incredibly explosive situation," and he complained bitterly that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) was not offering enough help: "This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control...."

A day earlier, on Aug. 30, more than 150 newspapers carried an op-ed titled "Destroying FEMA" by Eric Holdeman, who has served as the director of the state of Washington's Office of Emergency Management in King County from 1996 to the present.

Holdeman, who served as a career U.S. Army infantry officer before he joined Washington State's Emergency Management Office, stated bluntly that FEMA, which has been swallowed up by the Department of Homesland Security (DHS), "is being, in effect, systematically downgraded and all but dismantled." He elaborated: "This year it was announced that FEMA is to 'officially' lose the disaster preparedness function that it has had since its creation... FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster ... functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission."

FEMA's disaster preparedness mission has been in a "take-down" mode virtually since George W. Bush took office in 2001. The pro-active, pre-disaster-event mitigation planning and implementation has all but been shelved since the post-9/11 creation of DHS, which diverted nearly all FEMA money and efforts to terrorism planning.

Mark Ghilarducci, a California-based emergency preparedness specialist, confirmed Holdeman's assertion (EIR interview with Mr. Ghilarducci). "The pre-disaster mitigation aspect ... in reality ... almost 100% of the money, and 100% of the effort is being pushed towards terrorism preparedness." Ironically, he said, it was FEMA that worked before and after 9/11. (See accompanying interview.)

The deadly consequences of such short-sightedness is writ large in the unfolding catastrophe of Hurricane Katrina's wake.

Under the direction of James Lee Witt from 1993 to early 2001, FEMA was rescued from its past inertia and failures by Witt's launching of "catastrophic disasters" planning, among other initiatives. Four to five regions, prone to catastrophic disaster, such as the Louisiana coastline of Los Angeles basin (for earthquakes), were selected, which would require infrastructure inputs prior to a catastrophe, in order to mitigate the devastation that could be anticipated. Resources were then deployed to begin implementation and training of staff in those areas.

In his op-ed, Holdeman gave as an example Witt's "Project Impact," a Federally funded emergency preparedness and mitigation program at the local level, that provided funds to retrofit homes, schools, and hospitals in the Puget Sound area so that when earthquake Nisqually hit, on Feb. 28, 2001, damage was minimal. Ironically, it was also that day "the then-new President chose to announce" the end of Project Impact, Holdeman wrote.

In mid-July 2005, DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff, in Congressional testimony, unveiled his "Second Stage review" of the reorganized government agencies under his control. He made it clear that he will end FEMA's role of mitigation planning and implementation, saying, "it [FEMA] will now focus on its historic and vital mission of response and recovery." That is, it was intended to take FEMA back to the time when it merely responded to disasters after the fact.

It was that legacy from which Witt rescued FEMA, and gave new life to the agency, which had been created by the Stafford Act in 1974. Chertoff's claim of an "umbrella of greater security" strategy to promote "freedom, prosperity, mobility, and individual privacy" blew away in Katrina's winds and with the countless lives needlessly lost.

Despite the fact that Chertoff used all the right buzzwords, alleging that DHS is an "all hazards" agency, Holdeman told EIR in an interview: "A lot of folks took issue with his announcement. The traditional role has been disaster planning, preparedness, mitigation, response, and recovery." "An ounce of prevention, isn't a pound of cure in this situation; it is a ton of cure," Holdeman said.

A fatally flawed aspect of the DHS regime has been the lack of coordination between DHS headquarters and state and local government officials responsible for disaster planning (and this is expected to get worse under the Stage 2 plan). "DHS doesn't have regional offices," Holdeman said. "There's nobody on the ground to work with here, or nationally."

"I'm not against change. I think change, many times is good. There is a philosophy, 'if it is not broke, break it.' I feel in this case that is what DHS is doing." Holdeman said that DHS doesn't respect the opinion of FEMA people with years of expertise and experience. "Their opinion doesn't count. It has not counted to date. Hopefully it will count in the future."

Glad to be of help.

Edit: Just read that article - what a hoot. Does anyone really take this guy seriousily?

Oh and this one is even better

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/200...uto_execs.html

What a crack-up and to think I have been ignoring this guy all these years.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

BCC: GofO and SFTS

Hey Gawain and SFTS:

I didn't get my assignment for the cover-up effort. Can one of you forward me a copy of the memo. My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy address update didn't get turned in on time....

Seamus