Simple as that , well ?
Simple as that , well ?
"The essence of philosophy is to ask the eternal question that has no answer" (Aristotel) . "Yes !!!" (me) .
"Its time we stop worrying, and get angry you know? But not angry and pick up a gun, but angry and open our minds." (Tupac Amaru Shakur)
Rocky Marciano
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Not so simple. In what weight class? The best as in truly the best? In his prime no one could beat Mohamed Ali.
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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Heavy !!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The essence of philosophy is to ask the eternal question that has no answer" (Aristotel) . "Yes !!!" (me) .
"Its time we stop worrying, and get angry you know? But not angry and pick up a gun, but angry and open our minds." (Tupac Amaru Shakur)
talking of heavy weights: does anybody else find it disturbing watching matches involving lardy heavy-weights?
I say only this - [SIZE=4]ALI BUMEHYE !!![/SIZE] !!!!!!
"The essence of philosophy is to ask the eternal question that has no answer" (Aristotel) . "Yes !!!" (me) .
"Its time we stop worrying, and get angry you know? But not angry and pick up a gun, but angry and open our minds." (Tupac Amaru Shakur)
Then its Ali all the way. Float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. He was the greatest thing to ever happen to boxing on top of his ability he was a real personality. Its a shame to see what he has been reduced to today.
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Well , I agree with on that - the best of the bests !!! saw about 6 films on the guy , W H AT A G U Y !Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
"The essence of philosophy is to ask the eternal question that has no answer" (Aristotel) . "Yes !!!" (me) .
"Its time we stop worrying, and get angry you know? But not angry and pick up a gun, but angry and open our minds." (Tupac Amaru Shakur)
Rocky Marciano, then Jake LaMotta. Nowadays, I kinda like Vladimir Klitschko.
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
You just like them because their Italian KapoAli would hand them all their heads. He threw punches like a middleweight. He had the fastest hands and feet ever seen in a heay weight. He could take a punch with the best of them and punch with the best of them also. Most of all no one could mess with ther opponents heads like Ali could. Check out his fights before he was banned. No one can touch him. The guy didnt even get to fight in his prime.Or just look at the list of the men he fought and beat. Its like a boxing hall of fame in itself.
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Muhammed Ali without a doubt. Although their are/were many great boxers out there.
Btw, did anyone watch that sort of reality boxing series with Sylvester Stallone called 'The Contender'. Brilliant programme.![]()
I'd rather watch a full chess game on tv, rather than any boxing match.
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Its ok but Ultimate fighter is much better.
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A fan of the octagon eh Gawain?![]()
Big time. The two finalists from last years ultimate fighter put on one of the best fights Ive ever seen. I see spike tv is adding another marshal arts competition that looks even rougher than this.A fan of the octagon eh Gawain?
Theres also a show from Japan called Bushido thats excellent.
Last edited by Gawain of Orkeny; 09-11-2005 at 23:44.
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honestly prefer ultimate fighting to boxing?
Let me just make sure, ultimate fighting is the one where they spend most of the bout indulging in foreplay, looking like they're humping each other and stomping on each other's feet?
No theres plenty of boxing karate ju jitsu and any marshall art you care to name there. Its all legal. Some are won by knockouts and some by submission. Its a combined marshal arts sport and therefore show who is thwe Ultimate fighter. Id like to see the WBC champ try to fight one of these guys. They would tear him apart.Let me just make sure, ultimate fighting is the one where they spend most of the bout indulging in foreplay, looking like they're humping each other and stomping on each other's feet?
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I'll have to try watching it again then.
those crazy "gypsy" boxers have got to be up there if it comes down to toughness.
shouldn't this be greatest heavyweight ever?
anyway, the correct answer is jack johnson. but ali is a very close second.
now i'm here, and history is vindicated.
Max Schmeling, a man and a gentleman both inside and outside the ring.Originally Posted by caesar44
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Bah, blow the heavyweights.....Kostya tszyu for me. Explosive, tough and the stamina of an Ox!
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Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
Whilst not denying the greatness of Ali, I do think people get sucked in by the hype. He was such an enormous personality outside the ring that people connect that with his boxing ability. Giving great interviews on Parkinson doesn't make you a better boxer (otherwise Billy Connoly would be world champ).
I say the young Mike Tyson. Before it all went to his head. He was just flat out scary, like a wild animal.
"I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."
Senator Augustus Verginius
Big call, but I tend to agree with you. So enjoyable to watch in his early days, before he got a taste for ears.I say the young Mike Tyson. Before it all went to his head. He was just flat out scary, like a wild animal.
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Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
I would go for a young Tyson as well for British talent i always wondered what the hell happened to Prince Nassim Hammed. He had what it took to be a legend and just faded away, a shame man i loved his arrogance and speed in the ring.
Originally Posted by Big_John
Heavyweight !!! nothing else matter !!!
"The essence of philosophy is to ask the eternal question that has no answer" (Aristotel) . "Yes !!!" (me) .
"Its time we stop worrying, and get angry you know? But not angry and pick up a gun, but angry and open our minds." (Tupac Amaru Shakur)
Casssius Clay would run rings around him and make him look like the fool he is. Some of you it seems have no clue. Who the hell did Tyson beat? A bunch of nobodies.I say the young Mike Tyson. Before it all went to his head. He was just flat out scary, like a wild animal.
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Yeah well, short of getting a time machine and getting them both in there prime and put them in the ring together we will never know
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